Aluminum Question - Update On Availability

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Postby Ageless » Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:22 pm

No nut. You drill a hole the size of the tip and drive them in. The helical cuts threads in the material. In 35 years; never saw one pull out.
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Postby Carter » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:32 pm

I used .030 or .75mm aluminum on my standy. Plenty strong over ply. I wouldn't hesitate to go thinner as long as it has the ply behind it. It serves no structural purpose, just weather proofing.

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Re: Aluminum Question

Postby teardrop_focus » Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:33 pm

Carter, that's a gorgeous standie you built; I just looked through your album! Image





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No nut. You drill a hole the size of the tip and drive them in. The helical cuts threads in the material. In 35 years; never saw one pull out.


Mr. Ageless, you, sir, are an INVALUABLE resource! considering your stated background; I cannot thank you enough for your contribution to my teardrop construction plans.

Having said that, would the use of any type of glue or other adhesive be of any benefit? even though you've just said you have never seen one pull out. Thanks again.

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I received some nice samples of the Aluminum and Stainless today in the mail. And majority is 1mm in thickness. Stainless is 0.05.

I was surprised by the fact that they have a nice Black, Maroon, Silver, and Grey. All in all my favorite colors. ;)


Two questions for our Scandinavian Bureau Chief...

One: Is this "silver" you speak of a paint-like color/finish or is it simply the cast of raw aluminum?

Two: Where did you source your samples? Overseas? or a producer near your neck-O-the-wo0dz?

Thanks, Heikki! :thumbsup:
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Postby Ageless » Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:17 am

Focus; use the standard butyl tape to seal; don't drive them to the point of dimpling the al. These will hold fast but unless you want to space them every 1/2", they won't provide a water-tite seal alone.
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Postby teardrop_focus » Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:42 am

Ah, yes; butyl tape along any edges... sure. I was asking about glue for the rivets themselves, seeing how I'd drive them into wood spars, walls and bulkheads, maybe... thanks again. Still planning.
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Postby Ageless » Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:02 am

Unless you have a real dense wood; not recomended. These are meant to be sriven in aluminum, steel, f/g or composites. We used a material; micarta; much like a dense masonite. It would hold threads like metal, but it's heavy. For attaching metals to wood we used Weldwood contact cement.
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Postby teardrop_focus » Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:41 am

10-4; thanks!

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Postby Carter » Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:00 am

Thanks Chris, the trailer has been fun

I used no adhesive to attach my aluminum. I used a brad nailer along the edges to hold it in place while I was putting on the moldings, doors and windows. It just floats over the plywood other than that. I'm sure there are adhesives that would hold but nothing I could pick up at Ho-De-Po in 2004 that I trusted.

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Re: Aluminum Question

Postby Classic Finn » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:08 am

teardrop_focus wrote:Carter, that's a gorgeous standie you built; I just looked through your album! Image





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No nut. You drill a hole the size of the tip and drive them in. The helical cuts threads in the material. In 35 years; never saw one pull out.


Mr. Ageless, you, sir, are an INVALUABLE resource! considering your stated background; I cannot thank you enough for your contribution to my teardrop construction plans.

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I received some nice samples of the Aluminum and Stainless today in the mail. And majority is 1mm in thickness. Stainless is 0.05.

I was surprised by the fact that they have a nice Black, Maroon, Silver, and Grey. All in all my favorite colors. ;)


Two questions for our Scandinavian Bureau Chief...

One: Is this "silver" you speak of a paint-like color/finish or is it simply the cast of raw aluminum?

Two: Where did you source your samples? Overseas? or a producer near your neck-O-the-wo0dz?

Thanks, Heikki! :thumbsup:


The Silver I speak of is a painted on silver. Yes indeed. The aluminum and stainless is from a local company which is only about 2 kilometers away. However I cant say 100 percent yet if its produced there or not.
I,ll stop in and see the company and I will then be able to tell you more. :) ;)

The other colors are graphite, grey, maroon and raw aluminum and anodized.
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Postby Classic Finn » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:25 am

Carter wrote:Thanks Chris, the trailer has been fun

I used no adhesive to attach my aluminum. I used a brad nailer along the edges to hold it in place while I was putting on the moldings, doors and windows. It just floats over the plywood other than that. I'm sure there are adhesives that would hold but nothing I could pick up at Ho-De-Po in 2004 that I trusted.

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I also have to say that youve done an immaculate job on your trailer. It looks absolutely Finntastic. ;) :applause: :thumbsup:
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Postby teardrop_focus » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:36 am

Finntastic.


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Thanks, Heikki. Wonder if I can get the silver-finnished stuff over here in the states...

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That would be very nice. 'Cause my tug is painted silver.

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Postby Carter » Sat Dec 26, 2009 3:18 pm

Finntastic was what I was looking for............and I didn't even know what it was.

BTW, love your dog, what a beauty, and the family isn't bad either.

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Postby Tux » Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:10 am

I found a supplier of alu moulds and edgefittings :thumbsup:

http://www.duuri.fi/no/index.html and he's well represented here in Scandinavia. He only sells to warehouses and such OR in larger quantities.

I've bought some in the local warehouse and they are good....not as soft as I would want....but hten I'll just use a larger hammer :twisted:
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Postby Classic Finn » Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:53 pm

Tux wrote:I found a supplier of alu moulds and edgefittings :thumbsup:

http://www.duuri.fi/no/index.html and he's well represented here in Scandinavia. He only sells to warehouses and such OR in larger quantities.

I've bought some in the local warehouse and they are good....not as soft as I would want....but hten I'll just use a larger hammer :twisted:


:lol: :o Nice going Tux. Which of the Duuri moulding did you use? Ive looked at their moulding on a few occasion and didnt know if I could use them or not..Now ya got me goin :lol: :lol: Where did you use them at?

Yup a huge hammer will bend them for sure. :D :D And a bit of fire to go with it. ;) :R
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Postby Juneaudave » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:10 pm

Classic Finn wrote: Yup a huge hammer will bend them for sure. :D :D And a bit of fire to go with it. ;) :R


:o Uh ohhh Heikki...I'm not so sure it's a good idea for you to have a big hammer and fire all at once!!! :lol:
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