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Postby daddiozz » Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:55 am

oklahomajewel wrote:cool!!!!

You've been on my mind... well, I'm talking to the PVC "TD" haha

Thanks for the weighin ! I was wondering cost , and looked back and you said the sheets were 4x8 and about $34 , right?

Are you keeping sort of a log of your total costs? I did that with mine.

And what size is yours going to end up ? It looks pretty big to me.

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....love my trailer ,gotta love me too.. :) ...the range on the sheets are $30-35 depending on color ,yes 4x8...only logs around here are waiting to go in the fireplace :lol: ...my costs (so far) are appx $700+- (not including gas,beer, and ER visit)...4' x 8' on a HF trailer ,45" ceiling 5'-4" ground to roof.
....I know I said in my last post I was going to wait til I returned from our trip to cut out and build the rear hatch ,but my jigsaw got a mind of its own and cut it out ahead of schedule... :snappy:
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Postby oklahomajewel » Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:19 am

wow ... I thought it looked a lot bigger!

So the whole camper is 4x8 by about 5?

$700 is very doable? Did you just buy your pipe and such at a home store or get discounts?

And what size pipe again? Will there be any wood on the bulkhead wall or cabinets???

Sorry for the questions... I hadn't seriously dreamed of building a second one and now you've got me thinking,.....
especially for the ease of building and mostly the weight issue!!!
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Postby daddiozz » Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:00 pm

oklahomajewel wrote:wow ... I thought it looked a lot bigger!

So the whole camper is 4x8 by about 5?

$700 is very doable? Did you just buy your pipe and such at a home store or get discounts?

And what size pipe again? Will there be any wood on the bulkhead wall or cabinets???

Sorry for the questions... I hadn't seriously dreamed of building a second one and now you've got me thinking,.....
especially for the ease of building and mostly the weight issue!!!


$700 includes the trailer kit with 13"rims/tires ...all the pipe was purchased at Lowes/home depot ..schedule 40 ,3/4"in (ID) PVC pipe...its sold in 5 and 10 ft lengths ...I bought mine in the 5 ft lengths mostly for ease of transport plus the fact that no single piece used in the construction of the frame exceeded 46 inches.You WILL use a lot of "T" fittings ,plus 4 way crosses,3 way elbows ....i'm trying to put together a plan sheet showing whats needed where etc...but I dont know when it will be finished(my CAD skills leave MUCH to be desired)
....believe it or not my original plans had nothing to do with buildinfg a tear/TTT but simply a small lightweight enclosed utility trailer I could pull safely with my small car.I happened on this site by accident.Once I did I decided I wanted a dual purpose trailer not only as a utility hauler for carrying my R/C planes around in but also pull double duty as a camper occasionally as well.I never intended to put in a bulkhead at all as it would prevent me from loading my planes.In the back where a "kitchen"would ordinarily be placed ,I planned for a stoage area with a shelf/countertop above .This is stiil there and will be dual purpose ,not only as a work area for cooking but a work area for charging batteries etc for my planes as well.
....interior walls are planned for as well as insulation and 12/110v electric...that will be further down the road though as this is a continuing work in progress .As of right now it is a permanently erected "tent" /utility trailer and little more at this point.
.... Of course with the flexibility offered working with PVC pipe designing in cabinet supports and /or cubbys etc is allup to you.One thing though ....you will be creating a lot of white sawdust cutting pipe ,if you don't already have an power miter saw/chopsaw ...get one ,otherwise one of your arms will end up bigger than the other... :lol:
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Postby oklahomajewel » Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:34 pm

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$700 includes the trailer kit with 13"rims/tires ...all the pipe was purchased at Lowes/home depot ..schedule 40 ,3/4"in (ID) PVC pipe...its sold in 5 and 10 ft lengths ...I bought mine in the 5 ft lengths mostly for ease of transport plus the fact that no single piece used in the construction of the frame exceeded 46 inches.You WILL use a lot of "T" fittings ,plus 4 way crosses,3 way elbows ....i'm trying to put together a plan sheet showing whats needed where etc...


HOW COOL.... if $700 includes the trailer then I could just use the Jewel box trailer and start over for relatively pennies....

I thought you had used more like 2" pipe or something, not 3/4.

How cool how cool !
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Postby daddiozz » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:13 am

oklahomajewel wrote:

I thought you had used more like 2" pipe or something, not 3/4.

How cool how cool !


...nay ...ya use the 2" stuff for things you really wanna stay in one piece like bicycles and go-carts...(i'm not kidding!!!)
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Postby daddiozz » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:18 am

My next build will be more utility less camper for a friend who wants one to pull behind his Prius...it'l be a 4x3x8 rectangular "box".
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Postby Jst83 » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:16 am

First, very interesting :thumbsup:

Was wondering did you use any added support in the roof spars if not is there any or are you worried about sag over the 4' span?
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Postby daddiozz » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:53 am

Jst83 wrote:First, very interesting :thumbsup:

Was wondering did you use any added support in the roof spars if not is there any or are you worried about sag over the 4' span?
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during my initial planning stage I considered the sagging issue and originally thought the combination of the spars with the roof sheet glued together would make it strong enuff to prevent sagging but as it turned out that wasn't the case.. ,it wasn't that bad.. a minor pooling of rainwater was all but ....if you look closer in the picture you included ,you'll see some tongue and groove boards spanning the spars(actually some left over scraps from my re-siding project on my house)...also ,as I stated this is a work in progress ,i'm putting in some cross braces just as soon as i locate a fantastic type fan I can afford...the whole concept is experimental ...as far as I (or anyone else)knows ,its never been done before ,so .. i'm happy with the results so far overall...on my next one I 'll upgrade to 1" for the roof structure and see if that eliminates that problem..(tansition fittings are readily available)
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Postby oklahomajewel » Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:54 am

hmmm.... I was wondering the same thing,,, then thought the bulkhead wall between the bed and galley areas would help..... then the interior cabinets.....

but I'm thinking camping not hauling....

Thanks for all the updates !!!
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Postby Jst83 » Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:24 am

I'm just amazed really it looks like such a fun build

I was thinking you could insert something into the pvc piping like aluminum conduit and that would help with support also.

Any idea of weight?

Keep up the good work and thanks for the pictures.
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Postby RICHARD FURROW » Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:11 am

Jst83 wrote:I'm just amazed really it looks like such a fun build

I was thinking you could insert something into the pvc piping like aluminum conduit and that would help with support also.

Any idea of weight?

Keep up the good work and thanks for the pictures.



With this in mind, how about the pour styrofoam mixture. It would stiffen them up considerably. Like the sandwich walls we have in our Teardrops.

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Postby Jst83 » Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:26 am

RICHARD FURROW wrote:
Jst83 wrote:I'm just amazed really it looks like such a fun build

I was thinking you could insert something into the pvc piping like aluminum conduit and that would help with support also.

Any idea of weight?

Keep up the good work and thanks for the pictures.



With this in mind, how about the pour styrofoam mixture. It would stiffen them up considerably. Like the sandwich walls we have in our Teardrops.

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:thinking: and probably lighter than conuit.
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Postby oklahomajewel » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:31 pm

Jst83 wrote:First, very interesting :thumbsup:

Was wondering did you use any added support in the roof spars if not is there any or are you worried about sag over the 4' span?
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I kinda wondered the same thing... especially if 5' wide.

Conduit? or ..... something like a dowel rod... I have actually seen wooden paint extension poles or broomstick handles with no head were cheaper than the dowel rods in the trim section.... maybe about $6 for 5 or 6 feet.... would something like that add stability or ???

I'm dreaming of being a copy cat , Daddiozz....
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Postby oklahomajewel » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:40 pm

OH! and another thought.... are you going to insulate with foam board or ____ ?

And then will the interior be the same sheets as the outer material?

You mentioned that the price varies by the color .... does that material come in basic colors or ? what did you get?

And then what would be used to seal/trim the seams on the exterior?


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Postby daddiozz » Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:29 pm

oklahomajewel wrote:hmmm.... I was wondering the same thing,,, then thought the bulkhead wall between the bed and galley areas would help..... then the interior cabinets.....

but I'm thinking camping not hauling....

Thanks for all the updates !!!
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yea ,I'd say the bulkhead wall would help a great deal for a camper ...mine is multi purpose for now ...if you look at the picture above... straight ahead....thats the front wall...now imagine that cross bracing on the ceiling/roof with one of the framed in sections with a vent/fan in the middle and you get an idea of what I have in mind to hopefully eliminate the sag ...one thing about building with pvc pipe once the glue sets its permanently in whatever configuration you have it in.If I push up slightly ...the pipe before the glue cures(about 5-10 seconds)...I should eliminate the sag and get rid of the boards........Yes on the foam board insulation.Interior walls :thinking: still considering my options right now... My exterior skins are grey to complement my tow vehicle"s metallic silver ,the roof skin/front wall and rear hatch are forrest green..... a light green ,light blue and dark blue ,as well as red ,white , 2 shades of yellow and a brown are the available colors there is another company that can get them in true metallic colors and woodgrains but they are prohibitively expensive....

...Richard/Jst

the foam idea doesnt sound half bad ....I'm not sure at this point how I'll be able to pour it in though...everythings kinda permanently attached at this point ....maybe some of that spray-in foam instead ? I could drill a hole sufficent to inset a applicator tube...
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