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Postby asianflava » Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:56 pm

Classic Finn wrote:Is there any problems using this type axle or anything I should know about? I do have the leaf springs and shocks on it?



One of the big advantages to a torsion axle is that they are damped. You have shocks on yours, the shocks will provide more dampening (sp?) than a torsion axle would ever have.
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Postby Classic Finn » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:04 pm

asianflava wrote:
Classic Finn wrote:Is there any problems using this type axle or anything I should know about? I do have the leaf springs and shocks on it?



One of the big advantages to a torsion axle is that they are damped. You have shocks on yours, the shocks will provide more dampening (sp?) than a torsion axle would ever have.



Now I have to admit Im stuck on my English... I think I know what you mean but ... Dampening :thinking: ?

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Postby Hardin Valley Magic » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:39 pm

dampening: smoothing out the ride so to speak.
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Postby Classic Finn » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:43 pm

Hardin Valley Magic wrote:dampening: smoothing out the ride so to speak.


Ok thats what I thought but wasnt sure... Ive never hear that word..
Gee I even learn new words at my ol age...

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Postby madjack » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:54 pm

dampening...in this context, to absorb road shock/bounce...hence a shock absorber is a dampening device as is a torsion axle......
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Postby Cary Winch » Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:03 pm

Heikki,

That frame turned out really good. Now of course that means you need to build the rest of the trailer that nice.

The two advantages of the torsion is the dampening and the possible lower ride height. You have the dampening well covered with the superb shock installation. The ride height looks like no issue with the underslung axle too.

About all I would recommend then would be draping your side walls over the frame to make the trailer appear lower. Kind of like in the thread by Victor Star.

One thing I want to point out is your frame dimensions length ways do not need to dictate your trailer body length. The front of the trailer body could be beyond the frame edge and so could the back. Heck, on our trailers the frame stops 18" from the back of the trailer in the rear. And we do not even have a front crossmember at all near the body edge.

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Postby angib » Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:59 pm

What this forum needs is a snotty Brit adding smart-ass comments and, hey, here I am..... I think the action of a damper is to damp and so what it provides is called 'damping'. (I think 'dampening' is what your grandmother did to clothes before ironing them, prior to the invention of the steam iron.)

Heikki, you've got the best damping of anyone - rubber in torsion has some damping but nothing like the scientific damping that you get from even the most basic telescopic damper.

So for example, every single original Mini built with rubber springs had hydraulic dampers as well. Sure, the Mini used rubber in compression, not in torsion, but the self-damping effect of the rubber is the same. It's called 'hysteresis' and is the same phenomenon used to produce grippy wet-weather tyres in the 1960s.

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Postby Classic Finn » Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:10 pm

Believe it or not but Ive had that word "Dampening" on my mind all day
for some odd reason.. :lol: :lol:

This aint the only word in the english language Ive stumbled upon... ;)
either... :roll: Most likely not the last.. :lol:

But as many said, the Build is just starting so .. a long adventure is ahead. It,ll be a challenge for us but at the same token it will be rewarding...

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Postby Sonetpro » Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:35 pm

Hi Andrew.
The dictionary says it can mean either.

dampen

v 1: smother or suppress; "Stifle your curiosity" [syn: stifle] [ant: stimulate] 2: make moist; "The dew moistened the meadows" [syn: moisten, wash] 3: deaden (a sound or noise), especially by wrapping [syn: muffle, mute, dull, damp, tone down] 4: reduce the amplitude (of oscillations or waves) 5: make vague or obscure or make (an image) less visible; "muffle the message" [syn: deaden, damp] 6: check; keep in check (a fire) 7: lessen in force or effect; "soften a shock"; "break a fall" [syn: damp, soften, weaken, break
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Postby doug hodder » Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:14 pm

Finn...since you doubled up on the "dampening" it ought to ride really smooth...and if you want to learn a lot of words that you have never heard...I'll record myself working on the Rambler and send the tape.. :lol: nice frame....Doug
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Postby Classic Finn » Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:05 am

Things are getting real "Damp" around here.. The snow is almost turning to water... :lol: :lol:


Those wanting to - We,ll teach you Finnish Words.....


Damp in Finnish is Kosteus, or Kosteutta :)


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Postby Chip » Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:22 am

And someone said that teardrop forums were not chucked full of redeming value and educational as well as entertaining,,,

If I may take liberties with this,,, to dampen one's spirits would tend to mean to smooth out the osilliations between drink up and drink down, which would tend to render the glass less likely to spill, So how do I affix four shocks to a glass to keep it level and still make it light enough to lift,,, I dont want to over design or overbuild this thing,,,,

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Postby Classic Finn » Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:00 pm

Did some searching for axles here in Snowy Reindeerland,,, and
I came upon this axle which definitely is different than what we have on ours..

Would this be a Torsion Axle or :thinking: Drop Axle there in the good ol
USA? It is only with 4 Bolt...

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Have to go and take a look personally on Tuesday....

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Postby Classic Finn » Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:03 pm

Chip wrote:And someone said that teardrop forums were not chucked full of redeming value and educational as well as entertaining,,,

If I may take liberties with this,,, to dampen one's spirits would tend to mean to smooth out the osilliations between drink up and drink down, which would tend to render the glass less likely to spill, So how do I affix four shocks to a glass to keep it level and still make it light enough to lift,,, I dont want to over design or overbuild this thing,,,,

chipper :thinking:


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Just maybe you could Dampen the oscillating by adding equal sized pickles to it? :lol: :lol:

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Postby asianflava » Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:07 pm

Classic Finn wrote:Would this be a Torsion Axle or :thinking: Drop Axle there in the good ol
USA? It is only with 4 Bolt...

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Have to go and take a look personally on Tuesday....

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Check to see if the arms are welded to the tube. If they are then it is a drop axle. If there is a small gap, then it may be a torsion.
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