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I made a mistake with paint. Need advice.

Posted:
Mon Dec 25, 2006 1:56 am
by NightCap

I could have sworn that I was using an oil based paint for the black stripe on my tear. It wasn't. I used a latex over the enamel white paint and it went on weird like oil and water. The paint was beading up a bit is some places. You think that would give me a clue... Nope, I screwed up.

Now my question.... It seems to have dried at last and I was wondering if I need to sand it off or can I paint over it with black enamel? Please help me with all your good advice?

Posted:
Mon Dec 25, 2006 2:01 am
by bledsoe3
If it's not sticking now(beading up), putting another coat over it is not what I would do. Sand it down and you won't be disappointed later.

Posted:
Mon Dec 25, 2006 2:02 am
by Micro469
Latex over oil doesn't work... you're going to hva to remove it and repaint ... try scraping it off rather than sanding. It should come off fairly easily.... My Dad used to use a piece of glass to scrape paint off. If the edge of the glass is straight , it does a real good job... I've done it myself, works good.


Posted:
Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:16 am
by Outlaw
Sounds like you're going to have to experiment a little as to what is going to take it off. I'd like to suggest using a plastic razor blade. Good luck and be sure to post what method worked for you.

Posted:
Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:42 pm
by 48Rob
Hi,
Sounds like the surface wasn't properly cleaned/prepared for the stripe...
Latex CAN be used over oil.
Oil cannot be used over latex.
Latex is flexible/stretchy and can easily deal with the minor movement presented by an oil base.
When non flexible oil based paint is applied over latex, it cannot withstand the movement of the latex base, and thus fails.
All the stripe paint should be removed, then a degreaser/cleaner used to clean the oil base.
After cleaning, a suitable solvent and means to roughen the base will provide for good adhesion of the new stripe paint.
Were it mine, I would choose an oil base for the stripe, as latex will dull quickly and never withstand a polish or even a few good scrubbings without looking like something inexpensive was applied over the stronger base coat.
Rob

Posted:
Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:51 pm
by reiltear
There is also Zinsser stain blocker and primer. Get the oil-based version, it's rated as exterior, it sticks to everything(they claim even to glass and glazed tiles) and you can cover it up with any other type of paint(oil, acrylic, latex or enamel). It stinks to high heavens, but might save you a bit of elbow grease.
Merry Christmas! And good luck.

Posted:
Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:22 pm
by Podunkfla
Nightcap... Lacquer Thinner will remove latex paint with a wet rag... although not neatly. It will give you a good surface to repaint with oil base enamel... and is generally faster & easier than scraping or sanding it off.

Posted:
Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:45 am
by NightCap
Thanks for the replys. I was really stressing about this mess. I am going to work on it tomorrow. I am armed with good information now. My skills with paint leave a lot to be desired. Again, thanks for all the good advice. I'm going to start with trying to get all the black off. I'll let you all know what worked best.

Posted:
Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:16 pm
by steve wolverton
NightCap wrote:I was really stressing about this mess.
The cool thing about messing up with paint, is it's only paint. These little campers are great, but they're all repairable, paintable, and nothing more than glorified tents.
Get some paint on there dude and let's see some pics!


Posted:
Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:13 pm
by NightCap
It came off way too easy. It was like a crusty layer of dust. I hit it with the sander and poof it was off. Wheew. I will paint with an oil based product now. Thanks for all the terrific advice.


Posted:
Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:26 pm
by doug hodder
You might check and see...given as much cure time as it's had, you will probably need to do a scuff sand or use a scotchbrite to give it some "tooth" and I don't know what you are wanting to do, but 3M fineline tape, available at auto paint suppliers, gives you a dead on smooth line with no bleed like some of the masking tapes can do, just a suggestion...Doug

Posted:
Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:54 pm
by NightCap
doug hodder wrote:do a scuff sand or use a scotchbrite to give it some "tooth" ...Doug
Oops, I just got back inside after putting on the lushious shiny black enamal. It looks great.

I did however sand the area pretty good before putting on the black enamal. It went on so much better than the laytex i put on by mistake. It just goes to show you that you have to stop, relax, pause and read the label a couple of times before you assume you have the proper paint or any other product for that matter. I'll get a pic tomorrow after I take off the painters tape.

Posted:
Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:57 pm
by steve wolverton
NightCap wrote:I'll get a pic tomorrow after I take off the painters tape.
*taps foot waiting for pics*

Posted:
Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:34 pm
by NightCap
steve wolverton wrote:NightCap wrote:I'll get a pic tomorrow after I take off the painters tape.
*taps foot waiting for pics*

Sorry.
I really have to get it outside and behind a vehicle to show how it really looks.
I am getting tired of taking pictures inside the tiny plastic garage.
