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Postby pauld3 » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:42 am

put the first coat of epoxy on last night, and laid the fiberglass this morning. pretty excited!!!

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Postby toypusher » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:43 am

:snappy: :snappy: :snappy: :pictures: :pictures: 8) :D
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Postby Mary K » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:53 am

At first, I thought you said "Started Exploding"

:rofl: :rofl:

Good Job! :thumbsup:

Your more bold that me! I don't like things ya have to mix and then have to hurry to apply.... :? :oops:

Ya, lets see some pics!!!!


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Re: started epoxing

Postby Classic Finn » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:19 am

pauld3 wrote:put the first coat of epoxy on last night, and laid the fiberglass this morning. pretty excited!!!

paul


Hi Paul

Ohhh have you heard of the Words by the Famous Madjack himself?

We sure do "Luv Da Pics" :lol: :lol: :lol: Besides we are a curious bunch too on top of it... :lol: :lol: :D :D

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PS Im one of them ... :) :)
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Postby pauld3 » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:20 am

ill try with the photos
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Re: photos

Postby Classic Finn » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:26 am

pauld3 wrote:ill try with the photos


Ohhhhh gooooooodie :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

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Postby Scooter » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:40 am

Mary K wrote:Your more bold that me! I don't like things ya have to mix and then have to hurry to apply.... :? :oops:

Yeah I'm about to epoxy/glass my little boat and they say if you can recoat in 72 hours it should bond well to the last coat. Longer than that ya need to do some sanding. I hate sanding. :no:

First coat to fill the wood grain.
Second to lay the glass.
Third to fill the weave.

Thassalotta planning and hard to complete in one weekend...at the speed I work that is. :SH
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Postby Juneaudave » Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:31 pm

Scooter wrote:
Mary K wrote:Your more bold that me! I don't like things ya have to mix and then have to hurry to apply.... :? :oops:

Yeah I'm about to epoxy/glass my little boat and they say if you can recoat in 72 hours it should bond well to the last coat. Longer than that ya need to do some sanding. I hate sanding. :no:

First coat to fill the wood grain.
Second to lay the glass.
Third to fill the weave.

Thassalotta planning and hard to complete in one weekend...at the speed I work that is. :SH


Mary K....there is a debate about precoating with epoxy and (IMHO) it is one of the most mis-understood parts of glassing. Some people swear by it, most the people I know don't do it. I have had good success over the years just laying the glass right on the bare wood, and applying the first coat to lay the glass (second to fill the weave, third to give enough buildup to sand without cutting the glass). A really good tutorial can be found on John Michne's website Fiberglass 101 Recoat time (in order to get a chemical bond) is also dependent upon the epoxy you use. For instance, I've found West System epoxy requires a much quicker recoat time than MAS Slow (which I currently use). With MAS Slow, I can glass in the evening, hit the hay, and apply the second coat in the morning.

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Postby toypusher » Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:53 pm

Mary K wrote:At first, I thought you said "Started Exploding"

:rofl: :rofl:

Good Job! :thumbsup:

Your more bold that me! I don't like things ya have to mix and then have to hurry to apply.... :? :oops:

Ya, lets see some pics!!!!


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You forgot "and wear breathing apperatus"! :o :lol:
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Postby angib » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:17 pm

Scooter wrote:Yeah I'm about to epoxy/glass my little boat and they say if you can recoat in 72 hours it should bond well to the last coat. Longer than that ya need to do some sanding.

I'm guessing this advice applies to that make of epoxy only. Some brands will tell you that unless the epoxy is still tacky, it's too late to recoat without sanding.

I've never met a professional who would apply new epoxy over hard/cured epoxy without sanding - or without having applied peel ply to the first epoxy and then ripped it off.

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Postby glassice » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:27 pm

If you get the lay up type it has no wax it give a longer Bond time and surface vial stop print though( all the little squares)
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Postby Mary K » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:46 pm

:? :? :?

Did I hear someone say "Spar Urethane"... I'm TOO Lazy for all that fiberglass smack!!! Yall all are bolder than me. I like instant gratification!!!

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Postby Miriam C. » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:01 am

Mary K wrote::? :? :?

Did I hear someone say "Spar Urethane"... I'm TOO Lazy for all that fiberglass smack!!! Yall all are bolder than me. I like instant gratification!!!

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Postby reiltear » Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:47 am

System 3, for all you ladies out there. It penetrates the...

Seriously, you can see it soak into the wood. Especially if you thin the first coat with 10% of I forget what... Laquer thinner? Mineral spirits?... Makes penetration so much easier... And 2 to 4 coats on top of that... (not thinned anymore)

Seriously, this just shows that I enjoy finishing wood and for me varnish is ... I just never worked with epoxy. The previously mentioned brand of spar varnish is my favorite.

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Postby angib » Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:32 am

My old boss had a nice saying: "Epoxy is varnish that goes on 4 coats at a time".

If we're talking about gen-you-whine glare-your-eyes-out billion-dollar-yacht mirror finish varnishing, then I think the old guys still prefer all varnish. Of course old guys always think the traditional way is better.

But if you want it to last with minimum maintenance, I think using epoxy for the first couple of 4-coats is the way to go. But then you have to use a UV-inhibited varnish on top.

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