looking for advice---restarting the galley.

Anything to do with mechanical, construction etc

looking for advice---restarting the galley.

Postby Miriam C. » Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:22 am

As you can see in the picture, the ends of the camper are totally unsupported. This is allowing them to bow out when not clamped to the hatch.

Image

The cabinet will still leave the last 12 inches hanging out there.

I am looking for the best way to build cabinets to keep this errant sides in where they belong. My original idea was to have a book case type tower on this wall and the other with a counter in between. :NC

Btw the wall is 3/4" thick.
“Forgiveness means giving up all hope for a better past.â€
User avatar
Miriam C.
our Aunti M
 
Posts: 19675
Images: 148
Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:14 pm
Location: Southwest MO

Postby Mary K » Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:28 am

I think once you get the counter installed it will pull the sides in. That would be a start.

I'm sure other folks will have some ideas on what else you could do.

Mk
Mary K

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. Bilbo Baggins
User avatar
Mary K
6000 Club
6000 Club
 
Posts: 6425
Images: 44
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:07 pm
Location: Florida, Pensacola

Postby rbeemer » Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:55 pm

Auntie,

MK is correct but when you put in you counter you want to have your hatch in place so you do not pull it in to much making your hatch not fit.

Your ciouter will act as a spar for the side walls. If you are not putting in a coutner across the back, your tower of shelves will need to be securly fastend to the wall and floor, this is not as good as having a counter go from side to side but it will help
Rick

If ducks had scales, would fish quack?
rbeemer
500 Club
 
Posts: 997
Images: 13
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:35 pm
Location: Oregon, Tigard
Top

Postby halfdome, Danny » Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:05 pm

How far bowed out are you talking about? How are the two sheets connected? Where will your bulkhead (cabinet back) be in relation to that plywood seam with molding on it? That seam would have been better somewhere else. Inquiring minds want to know :? Danny
ImageImage
"Conditions are never just right. People who delay action until all factors are favorable do nothing". William Feather
Don't accept "It's Good Enough" build to the best of your abilities.
Image
Teardroppers Of Oregon & WashingtonImage
User avatar
halfdome, Danny
*Happy Camper
 
Posts: 5894
Images: 252
Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:02 pm
Location: Washington , Pew-al-up
Top

Postby Miriam C. » Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:16 pm

halfdome, Danny wrote:How far bowed out are you talking about? How are the two sheets connected? Where will your bulkhead (cabinet back) be in relation to that plywood seam with molding on it? That seam would have been better somewhere else. Inquiring minds want to know :? Danny


It wants to come out a 1/2 inch maybe more, on each side. I allowed a 1/4".

That is not a seam it is where I originally intended to fasten the bulkhead wall. It is solid and square with the floor. (the seam is out of view.) The walls are 5x5 Baltic birch.(3/8" ) I have built up the galley wall to 3/4".

If I attach something wall to wall do I need to drill through my sides.

The 12 inch radius hangs in the air so it is out of play. :roll:
Thanks. :thinking:
“Forgiveness means giving up all hope for a better past.â€
User avatar
Miriam C.
our Aunti M
 
Posts: 19675
Images: 148
Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:14 pm
Location: Southwest MO
Top

Postby apratt » Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:36 pm

Miriam, if the countertop is going wall to wall, make it the width you want it and use pocket hole screws. That will suck the walls in. If you do not have a pocket hole jig, you screw a brace under the countertop then screw through the brace to the wall. That way no screws are seen from the outside.
Arthur,

ASL spoken here
User avatar
apratt
Gold Donating Member
 
Posts: 966
Images: 16
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:43 pm
Location: Washington, Chehalis
Top

Postby halfdome, Danny » Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:40 pm

apratt wrote:Miriam, if the countertop is going wall to wall, make it the width you want it and use pocket hole screws. That will suck the walls in. If you do not have a pocket hole jig, you screw a brace under the countertop then screw through the brace to the wall. That way no screws are seen from the outside.


Good advice. :thumbsup: If you do the brace thing hold it back a scosche so it will pull better. :) Danny
ImageImage
"Conditions are never just right. People who delay action until all factors are favorable do nothing". William Feather
Don't accept "It's Good Enough" build to the best of your abilities.
Image
Teardroppers Of Oregon & WashingtonImage
User avatar
halfdome, Danny
*Happy Camper
 
Posts: 5894
Images: 252
Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:02 pm
Location: Washington , Pew-al-up
Top

Postby Miriam C. » Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:14 pm

Thanks guys :thumbsup: I guess that means I should make the counter (or something) all the way across and use pocket screws.
:NC Anybody know if 1 1/4" are too long for 3/4" sides?

Going for more plywood tomorrow. :thumbsup:
“Forgiveness means giving up all hope for a better past.â€
User avatar
Miriam C.
our Aunti M
 
Posts: 19675
Images: 148
Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:14 pm
Location: Southwest MO
Top

Postby Steve_Cox » Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:20 pm

Miriam C. wrote:Thanks guys :thumbsup: I guess that means I should make the counter (or something) all the way across and use pocket screws.
:NC Anybody know if 1 1/4" are too long for 3/4" sides?

Going for more plywood tomorrow. :thumbsup:


Auntie M,

Doesn't the length of screw being too long also depend on how thick the piece of wood is that you are attaching to your 3/4" side? I don't have the pocket hole jig and put 1X2 cleats under my counter top epoxied and screwed with 1 1/4" wood screws driven at a 90 degree angle. Did I miss something here?
Steve
User avatar
Steve_Cox
4000 Club
4000 Club
 
Posts: 4903
Images: 196
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:46 am
Location: Albuquerque New Mexico
Top

Postby Miriam C. » Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:02 pm

And now it comes back to haunt me. I lost my bookmarks so I lost the site with directions for pocket holes.

It doesn't send them in at 90 degrees. It has a pocket the screw sits in. YOu can change the distance away from the end of the wood by moving the stop ring.

My question was if I set it for 1x2 stiles will it go through the sides. My fear is if I crank it down to pull the sides in will it go through. Don't know how deep it goes in because of the angle.
“Forgiveness means giving up all hope for a better past.â€
User avatar
Miriam C.
our Aunti M
 
Posts: 19675
Images: 148
Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:14 pm
Location: Southwest MO
Top

Postby doug hodder » Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:09 pm

Miriam...what Steve said... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: that's how I do it anyway...Doug
doug hodder
*Snoop Dougie Doug
 
Posts: 12625
Images: 562
Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:20 pm
Top

Postby Mary K » Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:03 pm

Miriam C. wrote:Thanks guys :thumbsup: I guess that means I should make the counter (or something) all the way across and use pocket screws.
:NC Anybody know if 1 1/4" are too long for 3/4" sides?

Going for more plywood tomorrow. :thumbsup:


Auntie M, I have the 3/4" sides and used pocket screws to install all my cabinets. I used 1" screws...had to go double check...and Yes, 1 inchers

I had to keep an eye to make sure I didn go through the sides....If I'd of know I was going to skin the sides then, I would have screwed the cabinets from the outside.

Mk
Mary K

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. Bilbo Baggins
User avatar
Mary K
6000 Club
6000 Club
 
Posts: 6425
Images: 44
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:07 pm
Location: Florida, Pensacola
Top

Postby halfdome, Danny » Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:03 pm

Miriam, Always do a test/dry run in a piece of scrap first after setting up a pocket hole jig. :thumbsup: Danny
ImageImage
"Conditions are never just right. People who delay action until all factors are favorable do nothing". William Feather
Don't accept "It's Good Enough" build to the best of your abilities.
Image
Teardroppers Of Oregon & WashingtonImage
User avatar
halfdome, Danny
*Happy Camper
 
Posts: 5894
Images: 252
Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:02 pm
Location: Washington , Pew-al-up
Top

Postby Miriam C. » Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:26 pm

Ok, one test on the edge where the trim will go anyway. I did use them on 1x2's but they are the hairiest bit wider.

Thank you all. :worship:
“Forgiveness means giving up all hope for a better past.â€
User avatar
Miriam C.
our Aunti M
 
Posts: 19675
Images: 148
Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:14 pm
Location: Southwest MO
Top

Postby diverguy » Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:12 pm

Hey miriam,
i bought a kreg jig kit at Lowes yesterday, 35 buck and wish i had bought it sooner. the scale it gives is to use a 1 1/4 screw for 3/4 material. i have tried some test runs and i was saying to myself "that has to be to long". but on all test runs so far it is perfect. i really like this little kit. simple, easy, comes with a scale for drill depth guide, and screw length on the inside cover. i have NEVER used one before but i found it to be very user friendly and easy to understand. sorry but i am no carpenter and i am totally confused on your problem so no advise there, LOL.
good luck looks great so far.
User avatar
diverguy
The 300 Club
 
Posts: 320
Images: 192
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:37 am
Location: Arkansas, Cabot
Top

Next

Return to Teardrop Construction Tips & Techniques

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests