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A wall vs. trailer question.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:55 pm
by Model_A Bill
In a past post, Mike wrote:

The first modification Is to change the width of the trailer from 60” to 58”. This will allow the side walls to hang over the frame, thus hiding the frame.


This description is in the generic benroy plan.
With the side walls hanging over the frame a few inches, a 3/4 to 1 inch floor, a 4-6 inch mattress, and a little over a 1 inch ceiling it would seem to me that the 4 foot side wall ( according to the plans) is now closer to 3 feet!

Isn't that getting kind of cramped on the inside or am I missing something here??? :thinking:

3 feet does not sound like a lot of room.

Please enlighten the rookie!!!

Thank you

Re: A wall vs. trailer question.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:20 pm
by Ira
Model_A Bill wrote:In a past post, Mike wrote:

The first modification Is to change the width of the trailer from 60” to 58”. This will allow the side walls to hang over the frame, thus hiding the frame.


This description is in the generic benroy plan.
With the side walls hanging over the frame a few inches, a 3/4 to 1 inch floor, a 4-6 inch mattress, and a little over a 1 inch ceiling it would seem to me that the 4 foot side wall ( according to the plans) is now closer to 3 feet!

Isn't that getting kind of cramped on the inside or am I missing something here??? :thinking:

3 feet does not sound like a lot of room.

Please enlighten the rookie!!!

Thank you


Huh? Bill, have you been drinking?

No, I know you're not. You're drunk with the OBSESSION!

But where the heck did you come up with 3 feet of width?

He's talking about narrowing the frame, the thing with the wheels, 2 inches total, from 60" to 58". This means you'll be able to use 5' wide ply for your ROOF, the maximum you're gonna be able to find anyway without using other material, runningit the other way, and having to seam..

So losing that 2" of width. your side wall can come down a few inches to cover the side of the FRAME and still use 5' wide material for the roof.

If you DON'T narrow the frame, you need roof material a few inches wider than 5' if you want to come down on your side walls to cover the top of the frame.

So let's say the channel of the frame there is 4 inches high. You'll lose 4" of interior cabin HEIGHTt, but you won't lose anything as far as width goes. And again, you do this to the frame so you can use 5' wide material for the roof.

Where did you get 3' of width from?

Can I please see your high school math scores? And do you please know that I'm just joking around with you and trying to help where I can?

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:24 pm
by Model_A Bill
Sorry, I goofed.....I was referring to the height of the TD, not the width.

Your right...I should stop drinking at work!!!!

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:25 pm
by Ira
Model_A Bill wrote:I should stop drinking at work!!!!


DON'T EVER SAY THAT AGAIN!!!!!

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:38 pm
by dovaka
Ira wrote:
Model_A Bill wrote:I should stop drinking at work!!!!


DON'T EVER SAY THAT AGAIN!!!!!


thats just crazy talk
why else would i come back every day

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:24 pm
by Miriam C.
:lol: They'd fire Ira if he quit drinking at work. :D Bill you are right on with the math. It depends on how thick the trailer frame is. However---if you measure how tall you are from a sitting position you will know if you need those extra inches. Remember---you are going to sit in the door, lean back and lay down. You are not going to chase anyone around the bed, or jump up and down as I can. :R

Model it and if it is too close make it bigger!

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:36 pm
by toypusher
If you plan on using aluminum on the outside, you can just put the sidwalls on top of the frame and then run the aluminum down over the frame to hide it. This will give you the thickness of the frame extra inside. Or you can go find some 5 x 8 (or longer)plywood and have lots of extra room. My cabin sits on top of the frame with a 2" thick floor and 1 1/4" roof and a 6" thick mattress. Seems to be plenty of room to me.

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:49 pm
by Model_A Bill
see..I told you I wasn't so think as you drunk I am!!!!!!!! :twisted: :D ;)

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:07 am
by Ira
Model_A Bill wrote:see..I told you I wasn't so think as you drunk I am!!!!!!!! :twisted: :D ;)


Now that I read it sober, I see that that you were talking about HEIGHT.

I'm getting old.

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:51 am
by Model_A Bill
I went home last night and got out the tape measure.

At this point I have decided to go with a modified generic benroy 5 foot wide and 5 feet tall by 8 feet long.

By having 3 - 3 1/2 feet of inside height (with a 4x8 sheet of ply), I think that is too short (inside height) so I'm going with the 5 ft. by 8 ft. board.

Now I have 2 concerns:

1) Can I modify the benroy to those measurements?
2) Can I still keep the "full" weight of the TD under 1000#'s?

Huh...can I???????

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:15 am
by wolfix
dovaka wrote:
Ira wrote:
Model_A Bill wrote:I should stop drinking at work!!!!


DON'T EVER SAY THAT AGAIN!!!!!


thats just crazy talk
why else would i come back every day


You guys work?

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:20 am
by dovaka
wolfix wrote:
dovaka wrote:
Ira wrote:
Model_A Bill wrote:I should stop drinking at work!!!!


DON'T EVER SAY THAT AGAIN!!!!!


thats just crazy talk
why else would i come back every day


You guys work?


thats what they call it when i show up but i know better

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:37 am
by Ira
Model_A Bill wrote:I went home last night and got out the tape measure.

At this point I have decided to go with a modified generic benroy 5 foot wide and 5 feet tall by 8 feet long.

By having 3 - 3 1/2 feet of inside height (with a 4x8 sheet of ply), I think that is too short (inside height) so I'm going with the 5 ft. by 8 ft. board.

Now I have 2 concerns:

1) Can I modify the benroy to those measurements?
2) Can I still keep the "full" weight of the TD under 1000#'s?

Huh...can I???????


Bill, you're really gonna add some weight going 5-feet high.

Believe us--there's plenty of height in there. I DIDN'T go down on the sides, so I didn't lose the inches, but I've never heard anyone ever complain about the ceiling being too low for them.

If for aesthetic reasons you really, really want to cover the frame, don't come down on the sides and come up with a trim solution down there.

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:13 am
by madjack
Bill, I am 6'2 and with the tear coming down over the frame, mattress, roof, I have around 38-40"s left and come nowhere near bumping my head in the tear...unless you just gotta have it, 5" tall is a waste of money/weight/time/hassle of doing...my .02cents worth...............
madjack 8)

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:31 am
by Model_A Bill
ok....you talked me out of 5' height. :?

I'll build it on top of the trailer instead, that is a good alternative.
I'd really like to keep it to 1000#'s or less. Who cares if you can see the trailer! 8)

So...It will be the benroy with the 5x8 trailer, the 4 ft. height by 5 ft. wide by 8 ft. long.

Will this meet my weight requirements?

All in favor...............................????:thumbsup:



I know, I know , I know...it's my decision to make but I NEED YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! :cry: