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Wooden Fender Building and Advice

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:44 pm
by Classic Finn
Ive seen some great craftsmanship on selfmade wooden fenders and Id like to give a try and build a set of old 30,s type ford fenders - but out of wood ... do you think it can be done? and what are some ways that it can be achieved..?

I know Juneau Dave was making a set if Im not mistaken..

And Steve Cox has a set that is somthing like Id like to try to make. Also I dont even have anything that I can actually look at physically except photos..Id need measurements and profile and dimensions.

And a set back is I have only basic tools.

Classic Finn :scratchthinking:

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:02 pm
by Ken A Hood
LINK

Did you see these from THIS thread?

Really nice looking laminated woodies.........

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:20 pm
by Podunkfla
Actually... I think Andrew posted a set of plans for cutting out the wood parts for gluing up wood fenders a while back. I don't know the URL? But, I'm sure somebody here does. It still requires a lot of sanding and shaping... but the results would be cool wood fenders indeed. :thumbsup:

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:59 pm
by Classic Finn
Ken A Hood wrote:LINK

Did you see these from THIS thread?

Really nice looking laminated woodies.........


Them are really nice looking .. ;) :thumbsup:

Classic Finn

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:00 pm
by Classic Finn
Podunkfla wrote:Actually... I think Andrew posted a set of plans for cutting out the wood parts for gluing up wood fenders a while back. I don't know the URL? But, I'm sure somebody here does. It still requires a lot of sanding and shaping... but the results would be cool wood fenders indeed. :thumbsup:


Maybe the plans will show up on the thread or if Andrew chimes in.. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Classic Finn ;)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:48 pm
by madjack
...or trying sending Andrew a PM................................... 8)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:07 pm
by Classic Finn
madjack wrote:...or trying sending Andrew a PM................................... 8)


Yupper... the reason being I signed up for a woodworking class and the project can be somthing of my own liking... small but not a tear.. :lol: :lol: So I thought I would do fenders... 8) 8) or at least attempt it..

Classic Finn ;) :thumbsup:

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:48 pm
by Alphacarina
They build some beautiful cedar strip canoes with no bulkheads, so a set of fenders should be doable . . . . not easy, but doable

Buy a book and get after it Finn! :)

http://www.schifferbooks.com/newschiffer/book_template.php?isbn=0764305379

Don

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:21 pm
by asianflava
Before some other projects cropped up, I was thinking about making a pair of fenders using Andrew's layout. I just PM'd him for the file. I never got around to it but I saved them for future reference. I can't post them because they are on my computer at home.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:28 am
by angib
I've got some more web space now, so I've put the three PDFs there:
http://www.angib.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/t ... nder-5.pdf
http://www.angib.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/t ... nder-6.pdf
http://www.angib.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/t ... nder-7.pdf

And here are the instructions I sent out when people asked for these drawings:

Here is the template for the fender 47-1/2" long to suit a 15" tyre.

Attached are three PDFs:
- slumber-fender-5 contains the outside profiles for each main slice of the bread and butter section;
- slumber-fender-6 contains the inside profiles for each main slice;
- slumber-fender-7 contains general information and views, the full-size template for the little slices of bread and butter that make up the flare-out at the back of the fender and a nesting plan for the 3/4" slices.

Here's how I think you have to use the templates to cut the outside profiles:
- Print them out and cut, say, the bottom and left margin off each sheet.
- Stick them on a piece of thin ply or masonite. Make sure that every inch of the paper is well glued along the profiles, so that it won't peel off when you are cutting.
- Check that the two check dimensions on the template measure correctly.
- Fit the outside template to your piece of ply and cut the outside profile of slice 11 and drill the four alignment holes. Each cut you make will cut both the slice and the template
- Repeat for slice 12, but only cut as far back as the end of the inset on slices 1 and 10.
- Repeat for slices 1 and 10, cutting the whole of these slices.
- Refit the template to the partly-cut slice 12 and cut the very back end. All this bother is because most of slices 1 and 10 are smaller than slice 12, but not at the back end, where slice 12 is smaller!
- Repeat for slices 13 to 15. Slices 15 and 16 will need to be spaced further apart than the 14-1/2" shown for the 3/4" slices
- Slice 16 is cut the same way, but you can probably get by without drilling the holes in this slice. You can cut both the outside and inside profiles of slice 16 from the outside profile template.

Having cut the outside profiles of all the slices:
- Make up and check the template of inside profiles in the same way.
- Use the four alignment holes to fit the template to slice 15 and cut the inside profile, leaving the bosses on around the alignment holes.
- Repeat for slices 14 to 10 and 1.

Doing it this way means you only need to make up one template for the outside profiles and one template for the inside profiles - each time you cut one slice, the template gets a bit smaller, so you have to be sure to cut the slices in the right order.

Slices 2 to 9 are identical and so it would be worth setting up the template to cut the slices with a router.

The slices are assembled using some 1/4" pins in the alignment holes. I would buy some really long bolts (preferably stainless steel) and wax them before putting them in the holes - this way, once the slices are bonded together you should be able to drive the bolts out, so that you are only cutting wood when you come to remove the bosses around the alignment holes!

Slice 16 can be fitted to the stack without using alignment holes - its bottom lines up with all the other slices and the inside edge of three of the bosses line up with the inside edge of the slice.

Andrew

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:51 am
by Classic Finn
Hi Andrew

Can these fenders be fitted for 14 inch tires?

Classic Finn

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:13 pm
by Alphacarina
Classic Finn wrote:Can these fenders be fitted for 14 inch tires?
A lot depends on the tire sizes
For example, a 175/80-13 and a 205/55-15 are almost exactly the same circumference - I noticed this when comparing my teardrop spare tire to the tires on my car

Don

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:40 am
by angib
Those Slumbercoach fenders are a tight fit on a 15" tyre of normal trailer section (ie, /75 or /80). A 14" tyre will fit fine, just not so tight. A 13" tyre will be beginning to be lost inside the opening - but there's nothing to stop anyone from making the opening a smaller diameter to suit a smaller wheel.

But the thing I've only remembered when someone pm'ed me is that this is a fender to suit the Slumbercoach and that trailer rides lower than anything else - the wheel centre is 4" above the bottom of the side walls. So on any other trailer either the fender will be well above the tyre or the fender will hang below the sidewall, neither of which I personally like the look of.

Andrew

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:16 pm
by Podunkfla
angib wrote:Those Slumbercoach fenders are a tight fit on a 15" tyre of normal trailer section (ie, /75 or /80). A 14" tyre will fit fine, just not so tight. A 13" tyre will be beginning to be lost inside the opening - but there's nothing to stop anyone from making the opening a smaller diameter to suit a smaller wheel.

But the thing I've only remembered when someone pm'ed me is that this is a fender to suit the Slumbercoach and that trailer rides lower than anything else - the wheel centre is 4" above the bottom of the side walls. So on any other trailer either the fender will be well above the tyre or the fender will hang below the sidewall, neither of which I personally like the look of.

Andrew

I think Len's Slumber Coach looks pretty great riding low like that. I would think you would either have to use a tortion axle ot some kind of a dropped axle with leif springs to get it that low. The fenders look just fine to me the way he has it. :thumbsup:

Image

(My apologies to Len for borrowing his image)

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:28 pm
by Roly Nelson
Heikki, my scandihovian buddy, have you forgotten about the 1/2 Nelson wooden fenders? They are made of 1/8" plywood, secured in a routed groove in the side wall trim and the outer fender trim member. They are so strong that I can stand on them. They are coated inside with truck bed liner and probably have 20 or 30 glue blocks on the underside to secure them firmly to the tear body. Will surely hold up well in the land of the midnight sun. You can see some pics of how I made them in my construction pics, shown in the URL below.

Du kan inta ferglema, at tra ar bra, men aluminum ar bettra. (wood is good, but alum. is better)

Till nesta gongan..........Roly :thumbsup: