Inside walls or inside ceiling...which is first?

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Inside walls or inside ceiling...which is first?

Postby David Beckett » Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:07 am

Any thoughts on which should go in first: inside finish walls or inside ceiling?

I had planned on doing the walls first. But the more I think, it makes more sense to install the ceiling first. THe main issue is joint where the ceiling and wall meet. If I install the ceiling first I don't have to notch the walls (1/4" Luan) to fit the roof spars.
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Postby mikeschn » Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:07 am

I think you'll want to install your finish walls first. Once the ceiling is installed, you have no way to get the walls in!!!

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which first: walls or ceiling?

Postby David Beckett » Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:02 pm

Mike,

Actually they would fit through my extra wide door. I would physically try this before doing the ceiling first.

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Postby David Grason » Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:34 pm

Of course, one of the beauties of building your own is that you get to do it the way you want to do it. But I felt that it would be better to build the walls first. That way I could put little nailer blocks on my paneling to give my interior ceiling a little something extra to help support the curvature. Here are the pics that are supposed to be worth so many thousand words. Blah Blah:

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walls or ceiling first?

Postby David Beckett » Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:19 pm

Mike and David,

Thanks for the pictures. Seeing snow on the ground makes me feel right at home. I'm outside building my tear here in Alaska in 35 degree weather!

I like your nailer block idea, David. How did you cut the notches in your inside finish walls? Seems like it would be hard to measure those exactly. Although :thinking: you could clamp it to the outside wall and then mark the roof spar notches.

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Postby David Grason » Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:47 pm

The notches on the inside walls are really loose. They don't need to be an exact fit but I think they should be close enough to overlap the insulation and provide a shoulder for the nailer blocks. BTW, I glued the nailer blocks as well.

Keep in mind that this trailer is based on the "Trailer For Two" in the 1947 Mechanix Illustrated magazine. There's a grid in that mag showing the placement of the cross supports. So it was easy to transfer those to the interior panels. But at first, I cut them exactly and when I went to put them in, they wouldn't go. So I had to start wittling them bigger and bigger until I got it right.

Here's a URL that shows the Trailer for Two from that magazine article:

http://www.oldwoodies.com/shoptalk-trailer1.htm

Somewhere I found the magazine article on a free PDF file and when I found it, I immediately DLed it and printed it up. I cannot for the life of me remember where I got that PDF file. If I ever find it, I promise to post the link.

I plan on building another trailer and I'll have learned all the tough lessons on this one. The next one is going to be a breeze but I have to admit, there have been a LOT of problems needing solving here. I bought Kevin Hauser's CD-ROM from www.kuffelcreek.com. I think that Kevin's book is money well spent. However, this far into my build, I have to say that even Kevin's book does NOT cover all the bases. But that's what this forum is for.

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So really, I've gleaned a virtually everything from a combination of the original article, Kuffelcreek and this forum. If I had left anyone of them out, I'd have been in deeper trouble.

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Postby David Grason » Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:12 pm

Ok, guess what?!

I found the URL where I printed up the PDF file that showed the Mechanix Illustrated's "Trailer for Two." Here it is:

http://www.jpjennings.com/home/Teardrop ... forTwo.htm

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