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Wood for bending?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:11 pm
by TheOtherSean
I'm considering building a teardrop or TTT using bent & laminated wood strips to make the curved frame. Unfortunately, the local Home Depots only carry lattice in stain-grade, and that's 47 cents per linear foot for the 1/4 inch thick by 1-1/8 inch wide strips. Does anybody know of a more affordable source of lattice-type wood strips?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:33 pm
by Dark Horse
Most lattice wood is not worth your time. The thickness is nice and that about it, unless your willing to spend quite a bit of $

If you have or have access to a tablesaw you can rip your own stock down for laminating.
Or
set up a strip jig and use a circular saw to rip strips from your stock

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~durgerian/id5.html

They do an very nice job, I don't care for the hand placement in one pic, Fingers should never be below the plate. other than that the set up they use works very well.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:38 pm
by Steve_Cox
I ripped clear, hand picked 2 X 4 studs to make laminated curved spars. Also have made them from strips of 5.2 mm plywood for spars that are not exposed (inside walls)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:30 pm
by bfitz
I'd recommend looking at 2x10 or 12's. Usually they are a better grade (fewer knot holes/warping, etc) and will make for higher quality strips. While one 2x10 is much more expensive than a 2x4, I don't think the board-foot cost is that much higher. Combine that with higher quality and it's well worth it!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:51 pm
by TheOtherSean
Thanks for all the advice so far. Based upon what I've seen so far, I'll plan on ripping solid wood (2xwhatever) down to make the strips. Thanks!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:10 am
by angib
It might be worth asking if a bent laminated frame is necessary?

It appears to me that some teardrop builders think they are building a house where a self-supporting framework is built first and then skinned in with plywood to keep the weather out.

In a teardrop, the plywood does all the supporting and the framework is just there to hold the plywood flat and to make it easy to join the corners. If a framework is built first, and can hold itself up, then it's way overbuilt.

Andrew

PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:37 pm
by TinKicker
Thank you for saying that again Andrew. My long-indoctrinated brain is slowly absorbing the mantra "self-supporting monocoque", and your repetition is helping so much. The more you say it, the lighter my trailer frame dimensions are getting! :lol:
It's the best diet plan for heavy tears I've found yet. :applause:

PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:30 pm
by TheOtherSean
angib wrote:It might be worth asking if a bent laminated frame is necessary?



I'm not sure, but I was leaning towards building the lightweight standy from the March/April 1946 Popular Science, and that's what the instructions for that one called for. It also gives me space for thicker insulation, which is very important -- winter camping is a major design criteria.

It appears to me that some teardrop builders think they are building a house where a self-supporting framework is built first and then skinned in with plywood to keep the weather out.

In a teardrop, the plywood does all the supporting and the framework is just there to hold the plywood flat and to make it easy to join the corners. If a framework is built first, and can hold itself up, then it's way overbuilt.

Andrew


I was thinking the framework be necessary since I'll be working with multiple sheets of plywood. If I was just building a teardrop, I'd probably be going the plywood frame route, but I've decided a teardrop is just a little too limited.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:50 am
by RogHodge
Your answer is no you do not need to bend/laminate the frame. The plans you are looking at, which I love BTW, also call for a canvas roof- I don’t think you will want to have one of those either.
It sounds like your sides will want to be “sandwiched” with a touch of pre-planning your joints can land on a ‘stud’ and your laughing. Also ply can be “scarfed” like the boat builders do- but I doubt if that is necessary.
http://www.oneoceankayaks.com/stitchglu ... rfjig2.htm

PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:45 pm
by TheOtherSean
RogHodge wrote:Your answer is no you do not need to bend/laminate the frame. The plans you are looking at, which I love BTW, also call for a canvas roof- I don’t think you will want to have one of those either.


Thanks for your comments. I was planning to try either vinyl like on old-style automotive roofs, or fiberglass as in the Lil Guy plans.