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Help with propane question

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:07 pm
by willie
I want to plumb my trailer for propane and want to know what the difference is between an RV propane stove that can be used indoors, and the Coleman type camp stove that can not. Is it just different delivery pressures? I want to be able to accomodate both types of systems.

Thanks, Will

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:21 pm
by chorizon
Hello! I know nothing about your question, but welcome to the forum!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:34 pm
by Ageless
The pressure is regulated (reduced) at the connection with the small propane bottle with the portable stove while it's regulated at the fitting on the big bottle for the indoor stove, furnace, lights, etc. You can buy an adapter to connect portable gear stoves, lanterns, etc to the big bottle.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:59 pm
by madjack
YEP, that's right...a portable stove has a built in regulator and the RV stove does not...and yes, adapters are available to hook a regulator to a RV stove with fitting for whatever type tank you wish to use...........
madjack 8)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:23 pm
by Danny
madjack wrote:YEP, that's right...a portable stove has a built in regulator and the RV stove does not...and yes, adapters are available to hook a regulator to a RV stove with fitting for whatever type tank you wish to use...........
madjack 8)
Could we get some PIX of that M.J. :lol: pix are always helpful..

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:45 am
by madjack
....there are 7,928 different propane adapters and I certainly don't intend to post 'em all...pfffffft :roll: ;) ;)
madjack 8)

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:07 am
by Jiminsav
OK..post 1000 of them..

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:28 am
by Dale M.
Just be aware, the regulated appliances (indoor RV stoves and such) operate at about 1/3 to 1 psi...

The unregulated appliances as Coleman lanterns and camp stoves operate at tank pressure... Usually around 125 psi at 70°f.. And pressure goes up as temperature goes up.... I would suggest you use regulated supply for built in appliances .... And run the high pressure appliances on hoses and separate from your regulated system.... Putting high pressure piping into a trailer is not going to be easy and if you have a leak at high pressure the volume of gas expelled will be tremendous and may go into a dangerous situation (fire-explosion) in just seconds....

You can put a "tee" fitting on your tank and run high pressure to appliances using a umbilical (hose) and on other side of "tee" place your regulator to your "regulated" (built in ) appliances.... Just screwing a Coleman stove to a counter top does not make it a built in.... And trying to plumb/adapt to propane lamps and stoves are a nightmare because all the fittings are different (for a reason)... And there is so many options out there to connect up BULK propane to items that normally run on 1 pound canisters that trying to do mechanical plumbing to make everything work at high pressure is like trying to reinvent the wheel....

Dale

Lower Output

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:47 pm
by scotchale
I recently adapted a Q200 grill to connect to my outside, external RV propane outlet, which is regulated from the main tanks of the RV. The grill normally runs on the portable camp-canisters, and is regulated with the built in regulator on the Q200 grill.

However, with the lower regulated output of the RV supply, 1 to 3psi (range), the pressure is too low for the grill. It will still light up and heat, but not realistically enough output to cook anything. I wasn't sure how well this would work until I tried it out, and those were the results.

For now, I connect the Q200 with an adaptor hose I had made to fit a propane tank supply directly, not through the RV regulator, then the higher pressure of the tank is then regulated by the internal Q200 regulator, works fine, and I can do without the little cartridges, which was the objective.

Bryan

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:45 pm
by mikeschn
madjack wrote:....there are 7,928 different propane adapters and I certainly don't intend to post 'em all...pfffffft :roll: ;) ;)
madjack 8)


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Great info

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:59 am
by willie
Thanks for all the suggestions. I never realized that the regulated interior pressure was so low, explains a lot. When I said I wanted to accomodate both types, I never intended to use the camp stuff inside, simply that I wanted to be able to fire my Baby Weber without a lot of setup. If my tank ends up mounted up front and I am cooking in back, I don't want to run a 10 foot hose.

Scotchale, did you try bypassing the regulator on the gas grill? Has anyone heard of removing the regulator and using a different valve and connector for the grill so you can use the regulated RV supply?

Willie

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:06 pm
by Ageless
Willie; by removing the orifice from a portable unit; you can attach an adapter and use regulated pressure from the big tank

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:37 pm
by madjack
Ageless wrote:Willie; by removing the orifice from a portable unit; you can attach an adapter and use regulated pressure from the big tank


...explain more better...please......................................... 8)