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continuous plastic hinges

Posted:
Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:32 pm
by shortgmanp
Has anyone used these hinges on the side doors. I was wondering if there is a possibility them to sag?


Posted:
Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:38 pm
by Ageless
Got a link? Most plastic hinges I've seen aren't meant to carry a lot of loading.

Posted:
Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:55 pm
by mikeschn
Micro469 use the plastic hinge from McMaster Carr...
I don't know if he used it on the doors, or just the hatch.
Arne and Geron were also talking about them...
I think this is the one John got... (the pinless one)
http://www.mcmaster.com/#plastic-contin ... es/=44b2f5
Mike...

Posted:
Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:07 pm
by Ageless
Might be suitable for a hatch; but the soft plastic doesn't do side loads well (such as a door) Mounting holes tend to elongate over time. We even tried epoxy rather than screws and the thinner section that is the hinge began to stretch. One worker leaned on the door one day and the hinge which was in use for about 18 months began tearing.

Posted:
Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:09 pm
by madjack
I use this plastic hinge;
http://www.monroeengineering.com/hinges ... -hinge.htm ...bought a 50' roll and use it for ALL HINGES...it is great stuff and properly fastened, IT CAN'T SAG, STRETCH or TEAR and is rated at something like 100,000 duty cycles....
madjack


Posted:
Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:13 pm
by Ageless
Madjack; interesting 'polymer' rather than the standard plastic I've seen. All the plastic hinges I've seen are 'unrated' load.
Worth looking into; thanx

Posted:
Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:24 pm
by greekspeedoman
I'm with Madjack. I bought the monroe harsh environment hinge and use it on my side doors (Off-road). I've had no problems. In fact, I like them so much, I have considered changing my galley hatch over to it. NO problems with the elongated holes. These things are super tough. See my www for pics.

Posted:
Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:35 pm
by Geron
madjack wrote:I use this plastic hinge;
http://www.monroeengineering.com/hinges ... -hinge.htm ...bought a 50' roll and use it for ALL HINGES...it is great stuff and properly fastened, IT CAN'T SAG, STRETCH or TEAR and is rated at something like 100,000 duty cycles....
madjack

+1
1588A73 at McMaster Carr for cut lengths. IIRC $5 + per foot

Posted:
Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:39 pm
by madjack
Ageman, this is some tuff stuff...it has a 100#per/inch rating, making the 25"s worth on my door rated at 2500#s...has held up without a flinch, for 3yrs now...I predrill each screw hole at 2" intervals and fasten thru a strip of 1/2x1/16 aluminum flat stock on top of hinge...this keeps the hinge from trying to "pucker" between the screws...after playing with this stuff for about 4yrs now, I have high confidence in it...a 50' roll costs about what 10', sold by the foot, would cost from McMaster Carr and I have used it for hatch, doors, front box doors and interior doors...pretty neat being able to just cut hinges too length, as needed.........
madjack


Posted:
Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:45 pm
by TomW
I used the Acrylic Plastic hinge from Mc-Master
http://www.mcmaster.com/#plastic-piano-hinges/=44bomd
I used a 11ga alum. strip over the length of the hinge. My door is heavy and only dropped 1/8" when open at 90'.
I have the same hinge on the galley hatch. My photos are in my album.
I did put a bead of silicone under the hinge when I attached it to the wall and door. Hoped this would keep water from seeping under the hinge.

Posted:
Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:57 pm
by Ageless
Madjack; had to read up on 'alloyed polymer'. It's not plastic but a composite using bonded metal . . . no wonder it's got strength!!
Continuous Hinges

Posted:
Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:27 pm
by shortgmanp
First I would like to say that I am grateful to have feedback so quickly! I read some of the info on these hinges, but I wanted to see how they have held up over time. I have looked at post from everyone of you that have replyed to my question and have learn much from your experience. I hope I do not ask too many dumb question while building this, but I am not a rocket scientist. My dad and I are going to goo the floor in the morning and then work on the profile. Thanks again for your feedback. I will post pics asap. Greg Prater


Posted:
Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:17 am
by dwgriff1
Is there any way to use a hidden hinge on a door or hatch?
I wanted to use European style cabinet hinges but could not figure a way to make it happen.
dave
I really do not know

Posted:
Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:23 pm
by shortgmanp
I ordered my hinges from Monroe. After talking to the salesperson at monroe I figured that the it was the hinge for all my doors and windows. I figured if it was good enough for Mad Jack it was good enough for me. I am not sure if a hidden hinge is possible, but I bet the people on this blog will know. Greg P

Posted:
Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:34 pm
by Ageless
Dave;
I have a bunch of those Euro style hinges. When I build a tear; will use them, but I will have thicker walls to make them work. The recessed part will go into the door frame