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EPDM sheeting rubber roofing membrane

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:17 pm
by Charles Ipes
Has anyone used this?

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 4:19 pm
by prohandyman
Yep On the Touring Lodge
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:43 pm
by Charles Ipes
Thats a beauty. How is it holding up? And was it easy to use?

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:53 pm
by prohandyman
Holding up fine. Of course I don't store it in the weather. Gets dirty easy, but easy to clean. It wasn't too awful hard to put on. Uses a special adhesive, and it is contact cement to the max. Make sure you have it where you want it prior to touching together. Would use it again. Len also uses it alot.

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 3:29 pm
by len19070
prohandyman wrote:Holding up fine. Of course I don't store it in the weather. Gets dirty easy, but easy to clean. It wasn't too awful hard to put on. Uses a special adhesive, and it is contact cement to the max. Make sure you have it where you want it prior to touching together. Would use it again. Len also uses it alot.


Yes I do...and Love it.

If you have ever done Formica work or laid a Linoleum floor, you can do this.

I do store mine outside and it does hold up well.

There is a Protect-all product made for it that is a cleaner and protectorate, very easy to use and it can almost be made "Shiny".

Every year you use it, it extends the life of the roof 1 more year. (your basically wearing out the protect-all and not the roof.)

My Buddy "Coop" has it on his C-Tear and it has also held up very well.

Rich U has used it as well.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Happy Trails

Len

PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 8:39 pm
by rladams39
We are using black EPDM on our camper, If you dont mind black it is alot cheaper than the white RV roofing EPDM.
I picked up a 10x15 foot piece for $70. Any good Roofing supply house should have it.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:46 am
by Charles Ipes
Where did you find the black?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:43 pm
by mikeschn
Black ? :duh:

This might be a good time to talk about colors...

As it turns out though, a coating on aluminum, whether it is anodized, or a clear coat sprayed on, can increase the emissivity of the aluminum tremendously. Clear anodized aluminum has an emissivity of 0.76-0.84 (depending on the thickness of anodization). A clear coat would be similar, depending on thickness. Of course, white painted aluminum could have even higher emissivity (and would have a higher reflectivity). Bare mill-finish or polished aluminum, though, is going to get really hot in the direct sun.

So what kind of difference does it make in reality? The Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory did a study on roof materials (http://eetd.lbl.gov/CoolRoofs/) and found the following average temperature gains above ambient temperatures in full sun and no wind (a 40°F gain on a 100°F degree day would equal 140°F surface temperature):

Bright white smooth materials: 15°F
Rough white surface: 35°F
Very light (pastel) colors: 15 to 55°F
Bare aluminum: 48°F
Medium gray (reflectance half way between white and black): 52°F
New, bare galvanized steel: 55°F
Intense but not very light colors (green, red, blue, etc.): 79 to 83°F
Black materials: 90°F


So on a day with an air temperature of 90°F, you could expect a clean white trailer roof (Filon, painted aluminum, painted wood, etc.) in the direct sun to reach a surface temperature of 105°F. A non-coated, non-anodized aluminum roof would reach a surface temperature of 138°F, and a black roof would reach a surface temperature of 180°F!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:42 pm
by rladams39
Charles Ipes wrote:Where did you find the black?


A place called Reese its a roofing/siding supply company....

PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:44 pm
by rladams39
mikeschn wrote:Black ? :duh:

This might be a good time to talk about colors...

As it turns out though, a coating on aluminum, whether it is anodized, or a clear coat sprayed on, can increase the emissivity of the aluminum tremendously. Clear anodized aluminum has an emissivity of 0.76-0.84 (depending on the thickness of anodization). A clear coat would be similar, depending on thickness. Of course, white painted aluminum could have even higher emissivity (and would have a higher reflectivity). Bare mill-finish or polished aluminum, though, is going to get really hot in the direct sun.

So what kind of difference does it make in reality? The Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory did a study on roof materials (http://eetd.lbl.gov/CoolRoofs/) and found the following average temperature gains above ambient temperatures in full sun and no wind (a 40°F gain on a 100°F degree day would equal 140°F surface temperature):

Bright white smooth materials: 15°F
Rough white surface: 35°F
Very light (pastel) colors: 15 to 55°F
Bare aluminum: 48°F
Medium gray (reflectance half way between white and black): 52°F
New, bare galvanized steel: 55°F
Intense but not very light colors (green, red, blue, etc.): 79 to 83°F
Black materials: 90°F


So on a day with an air temperature of 90°F, you could expect a clean white trailer roof (Filon, painted aluminum, painted wood, etc.) in the direct sun to reach a surface temperature of 105°F. A non-coated, non-anodized aluminum roof would reach a surface temperature of 138°F, and a black roof would reach a surface temperature of 180°F!


We took our maiden trip over the 4th, temps were in the 80's and the camper was in full sunlight, with the A/C on low even during the hottest part of the day it was very comfortable in the camper..

Might have something to do with the insulation and air gap in the ceiling but we never noticed it being that hot inside.
As far as for the Temp of the roof itself i am sure it was quite hot..