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Outside Minwax sealer recomendation

Posted:
Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:38 pm
by WarPony
I've stained the outside of my Schooner with Minwax Golden Pecan stain and have been looking at what type of sealer to finish it off with. I keep reading that most of the sealers "reduce" damage from UV radiation. Is there any one of the Minwax products that are better than the other for outside protection? I know nothing is going to be completely bulletproof but I don't want to strip and reapply every other year.
Doug Hodder, your boats are badass!! I don't have the time or patience to sand between 15 coats of clear, though. Yikes!!!

Posted:
Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:53 pm
by madjack
...WP, I have been using Minwax's Clear Shield for a number of years on outdoor furniture with very good results. At present we have a set of Adirondak furniture that has been sitting out on the deck for about 10 yrs with no more than minimal protection and it and its finish LOOK GREAT. I have also used it to seal the bottom of my tear...if you are going to spray it...thin it with laquer thinner and apply at least 3 coats, sanding in between each coat. Remember if using any oild base finish it will impart a slight amber tint to the finish product...over golden pecan it should look mahvalous and as always YMMV
madjack


Posted:
Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:03 pm
by An Ol Timer
I second the Minwax's Clear Shield. It has everything that you need for a good top coat especially over the other Minwax product that you've already used. Not a Minwax salesman but i really have faith in their products if used right.

Posted:
Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:03 pm
by Chris C
WarPony, the most durable outdoor finish..........other than resin or epoxy, would be a high UV inhibitor marine grade polyurethane. You won't find it at Home Depot or anywhere inland..................you'd have to be on the coastline somewhere to get it. And it's expensive! A good yacht material supplier would have a high UV marine grade. That's your best bet................but then you'll just have to keep maintaining it as years go by.

Posted:
Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:20 am
by Michael W
I'm using Helsman Spar Urethane from Minwax for all of my wood finish. It is advertised to be UV stable and suitable for exterior applications.
http://www.minwax.com/products/protective/helmsman.cfm
I found the Minwax website to be quite helpful, there is a searchable discussion forum there where you can find answers to just about any wood finishing question. I followed the product instructions and am very pleased with the results.

Posted:
Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:15 pm
by asianflava
Michael W wrote:I'm using Helsman Spar Urethane from Minwax for all of my wood finish. It is advertised to be UV stable and suitable for exterior applications.

Cool, I saw a 2 gallons of this stuff among the OOPs paint at Home Depot. I was wondering why it was with the OOPs paint, It was marked down because it had a dent in the can. If that's the only thing wrong with it, I'll go ahead and buy it.

Posted:
Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:39 pm
by SteveH
asianflava wrote:Michael W wrote:I'm using Helsman Spar Urethane from Minwax for all of my wood finish. It is advertised to be UV stable and suitable for exterior applications.

Cool, I saw a 2 gallons of this stuff among the OOPs paint at Home Depot. I was wondering why it was with the OOPs paint, It was marked down because it had a dent in the can. If that's the only thing wrong with it, I'll go ahead and buy it.
Rocky,
That's what I used on the wood in my tear, so you've seen how the semi-gloss looks on birch.

Posted:
Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:07 pm
by asianflava
SteveH wrote:Rocky,
That's what I used on the wood in my tear, so you've seen how the semi-gloss looks on birch.
Hope it will look as good when I get a hold of it. Did you put stain or anything underneath?

Posted:
Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:47 pm
by SteveH
Nope, no stain or anything. I wanted a light colored finish because I felt a dark interior would make it look/feel even smaller that it is.

Posted:
Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:00 pm
by Steve Frederick
I've been using Minwax Helmsman for years, on kayaks and three Teardrop projects. I don't use stains either. The light amber coloring is just enough.
This is the rear bulkhead in my 'Diner. Maple boards, birch ply...semi-gloss.


Posted:
Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:39 pm
by WarPony
I think the Helmsman Spar Urethane is the way to go for me. I liked the Clear Shield the best............... until I priced it. Schnikes, that stuff is high!!

Posted:
Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:18 am
by asianflava
WarPony wrote:I think the Helmsman Spar Urethane is the way to go for me. I liked the Clear Shield the best............... until I priced it. Schnikes, that stuff is high!!
The stuff I found was $17 a gallon. I just hope that dent doesn't affect it.

Posted:
Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:35 am
by madjack

Posted:
Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:19 pm
by Chris C

Posted:
Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:48 pm
by Cutterpup
Madjack, If the can has rust on it does that mean that the paint will give a rusted appearence? And if it is dirty will it give a dirty appearence?
My wife will never let me buy the dented cans from a supermarket, do you think she knows something I don't?