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Dome/Vent Opener Mechanism (Solution)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:37 pm
by GeoDrop
I am installing a 14" vent (no fan) for my A/C unit. The problem I am struggling with is how to open/close the vent. I won't have direct access to it, so turning the knob to open isn't an option. I've tried to use a push/pull cable but there isn't enough leverage and the cable is too flexible.

Anyone have any creative ideas? The vent is a Ventline. (URL)

An inexpensive powered mechanism might be nice. I may end up installing some goofy lever mechanism or something.

Thanks!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:41 pm
by parnold
You might want to look at a hobby store for ideas on motors, or google. A simple three way switch could handle it with your 12v power.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:59 pm
by GeoDrop
I've found some linear actuators on eBay but they cost twice as much as the vent does. :-) I may just have to get one... hoping to come up with a less expensive soution. I've already blown the teardrop budget!

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parnold wrote:You might want to look at a hobby store for ideas on motors, or google. A simple three way switch could handle it with your 12v power.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:19 pm
by vreihen
At the risk of causing even more damage to your wallet, what makes an aileron go up and down? :twisted:

I was going to suggest an automotive hydraulic clutch slave cylinder, but they are only powered in one direction. You would need two, or else a bi-directional one like I assume is used in aircraft flight control systems.....

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:24 pm
by parnold
Ok, so here's another idea. Check your local wally world or whatever and look at vacuum cleaner belts. See if they have a cogged one. Perhaps you could rig a wheel up with a belt to the spindle that the handle goes on, and by turning the wheel crank open the vent.

If it works, it should be fairly cheap.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:10 pm
by GeoDrop
Yea... I was looking for a spare rod end bearing laying around but didn't have one the right size. I have a an idea for something simple.

I'm thinking an aluminum tube with a rod end bearing on the end. The bearing end would connect to the lid and the other end would hang down and out through the A/C box. I would need to create a catch or ledge for it to rest on when opened.


vreihen wrote:At the risk of causing even more damage to your wallet, what makes an aileron go up and down? :twisted:

I was going to suggest an automotive hydraulic clutch slave cylinder, but they are only powered in one direction. You would need two, or else a bi-directional one like I assume is used in aircraft flight control systems.....

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:13 pm
by GeoDrop
Good idea.. problem is that I was in such a hurry to make my push/pull cable idea work, I removed the wheel and part of the screw mechanism. :-(

As mentioned above, I think I'm going to connect a rod of some sort to the lid, let it hang down inside the TD and I'll just push it up when I need to open it. Not what I'd like but it should work simply enough.

Thanks for the ideas!

parnold wrote:Ok, so here's another idea. Check your local wally world or whatever and look at vacuum cleaner belts. See if they have a cogged one. Perhaps you could rig a wheel up with a belt to the spindle that the handle goes on, and by turning the wheel crank open the vent.

If it works, it should be fairly cheap.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:52 am
by dh
Could you put a light spring on it to keep it closed and allow the air from the AC to push it open like a popoff valve?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:28 pm
by DIY-Stu
If you want an actuator that moves about an inch find a solenoid for a car with electric door locks. Then install the actuator to "POP" open the vent. If you need something with a little more power, look for an import with pop up headlights you could use the linkage and all. A simple stop could be made and a DPDT switch can be used to operate it.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:27 pm
by GeoDrop
Hmm... I may have to see one of these. I was considering a powered radio antenna but they are big and bulky. They also travel longer than I need. Thanks for the idea, I will definitely look into this.


DIY-Stu wrote:If you want an actuator that moves about an inch find a solenoid for a car with electric door locks. Then install the actuator to "POP" open the vent. If you need something with a little more power, look for an import with pop up headlights you could use the linkage and all. A simple stop could be made and a DPDT switch can be used to operate it.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:53 pm
by Wimperdink
lawn mower throttle cable. Should have plenty of strength nor should it flex trying to open and close that light weight lid... I realize you stated you tried a push pull cable... was the inside solid core and how thick? This thing or one like it goes for 4 bucks on google shopping.

The solid core cable that operates the air vents in my old S10 truck are much thicker and quite a bit stronger. Just a thought.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:33 pm
by GeoDrop
Thanks for all of the ideas. I managed to scrape together some parts I had lying around and come up with the following. It is a hollow aluminum rod with a screw in rod-end clevis. I found a little bracket that I bolted to the lid.

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The rod will extend down and into the cabin area behind a drawer. When the vent is open, the rod will not be visible. I still need to put some sort of handle on the end of the rod inside and a way of 'latching' it when in the up and down positions.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:56 pm
by 86bigred
you could have bought an electric opener from an rv shop.our shop has them in stock ,and under 30.00 to boot. fantastic fans have the same motors as well.