Attaching and trimming alum sides/top

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Attaching and trimming alum sides/top

Postby Glenn Quarles » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:04 am

I have read all of the tips on using alum for the side and top I have seen, but have a few questions I haven't found info on:
-How do you trim the alum to the same size/shape of the sides? I'm thinking router with flush trim bit? Any special bit needed to last?

- Do you put the alum on the sides before or after the trailer is assembled?

- If you use the technique of gluing the alum to the wood, and then the glue breaks loose due to the expansion, what problem does that create? I was thinking I would glue the alum on after the trailer was assembled and then trim it to shape, but don't want to run into problems down the road if/when the glue turns loose (I understand all of the trim, windows, etc will still hold the siding inplace, I'm just wondering if it will wrinkle, buldge, etc).

- Any special glue stands up the expansion problem better than others?

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Postby madjack » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:11 pm

Glen, I am in the "floating" school...no adhesive...it is possible to get "oil canning" with an adhesive...I believe Gage uses a cheap contact cement, assuming it will all let go eventually. I cut virtually all piece on the work table and then assemble them, using a few well placed(to be hidden by trim) air driven staple to hold the AL in place until the trim, lights, fenders and such are in place...I did use a router to cut the aluminum(and most everything)...I use templates and a guide bushing...while I use regular carbide bits, they do tend to load up...they make a shear bit with a steeper cutting angle which would probably do better...since the first one, I have gone to using an air powered shear to do this cutting(15bux at Harbor Freight)...much easier and no "aluminum dust"(swerf)with just a little practice, you can cut a fine line with them...some use jig saw with a fine toothed blade and a padded foot(to keep scatching down), I believe Uncle Len(Len10901or ??) uses an air driven jig saw for this...whatever you are comfortable using will probably work
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Postby Glenn Quarles » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:39 pm

Thanks MadJack, I was hoping you would reply.

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Postby aggie79 » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:10 am

Glenn,

Early in my build, I made a template from 1/4" mdf to use to layout the sidewalls. When I was ready to cut the sidewall aluminum, I used the template to draw an outline on the back side of the aluminum. (The front side had a protective plastic sheet.)

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I then cut the aluminum with a jig saw. The cut line was about 1/4" inside of the template. The "gap" is to allow room for the aluminum to expand and contract some.

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With the temperature extremes in Texas, I decided to "float" the aluminum. I did use 3M 4200 around the perimeter to help seal any moisture from seeping underneath the aluminum.

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The aluminum was then applied and, like Madjack, I used a few staples to secure it into place, along with blue tape and clamps at the openings.

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In this picture, you can see the gap between sheets, the staples holding the aluminum, and squeeze-out from the 3M 4200.

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For the smaller openings, like for the vent fan, electrical inlet, etc., I didn't cut those before installing the aluminum. I came back later and made the cuts using a router and a solid carbide "knob" bit.

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I do have some oil-canning in the sheets when the temperatures get over 85-degrees, but it isn't that much. So far everything seems to be holding together.

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Postby J.Heyboer » Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:52 am

Yet another of Tom's posts that I will be bookmarking for later use.

Thanks for the great play by play!

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Postby Glenn Quarles » Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:05 pm

Thanks again Tom! I had not considered making the alum a bit smaller than the sides...this seems like it will be much easier than gluing it on and then cutting it the exact size.

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