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Cubby roof: Aluminum only over spars?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:59 pm
by tvlawyer
The Cubby plans show the aluminum sheet being laid over the spars. However, I feel like there should be a sheet of 1/8 ply laid over the spars and then float the aluminum over that. Using a sheet of ply should increase the overall integrity of the roof and decrease the number of dents and dings that would form between the spars. Am I over-engineering? :thinking:

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:46 pm
by GuitarPhotog
My 1948 trailer has aluminum skin riveted directly to the angle iron frame, so I think you could attach directly to roof spars without problems.

Mine has held up for 63 years that way, so it seems to work :)

<Chas>

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:58 pm
by down under tech
tvlawyer: I used 1/8" ply over the spars and attached it with PL Premium construction adhesive and screws on my Cubby. After it set up, I removed the screws and filled in the holes with wood filler. Then I floated aluminum on top of that. The side trim holds it all down.
Over kill ??? "I don't think so, Tim". :roll:
It will add some more weight and it will be stronger and the aluminum will not bend in on high speed maneuvers. :o

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:01 am
by madjack
...applying over a substrate will certainly be stronger BUT, I put mine directly over spars on 8"centers and after 4yrs, the only dents are from rocks hitting the front box...which is over 1/2" ply........
madjack 8)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:02 am
by ssrjim
I've done both and I don't think they turned out any different. I guess we will have to wait 20 years and a 100000 miles and compare them 8)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:57 am
by Lgboro
Very soon I'll be installing my aluminum roof directly over my spars and insulation. Any dings I accumulate will be because I have been camping :thumbsup: . Not a particularly bad thing.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:51 am
by tvlawyer
down under tech wrote:tvlawyer: I used 1/8" ply over the spars and attached it with PL Premium construction adhesive and screws on my Cubby. After it set up, I removed the screws and filled in the holes with wood filler. Then I floated aluminum on top of that. The side trim holds it all down.
Over kill ??? "I don't think so, Tim". :roll:
It will add some more weight and it will be stronger and the aluminum will not bend in on high speed maneuvers. :o


Tim:

What's your reason for removing the screws?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:20 am
by down under tech
They were used to hold things together until the adhesive had time to set up. Less weight with out them, too. It also gives a flat surface for the aluminum to lay down on.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:50 am
by Lgboro
Weight -- I don't have a metal fastener in my build yet. Only metal on mine will be to hold the tear to the trailer frame and hold the trim on. I used both dowel pins and biscuit joints to hold my build together and it is super strong. All my framing is a T or L with opposing grains - a lot of work but really strong to be made of cedar. I did buy about 50 good clamps to allow me to bypass metal fasteners.

Re: Cubby roof: Aluminum only over spars?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:46 pm
by toypusher
tvlawyer wrote:The Cubby plans show the aluminum sheet being laid over the spars. However, I feel like there should be a sheet of 1/8 ply laid over the spars and then float the aluminum over that. Using a sheet of ply should increase the overall integrity of the roof and decrease the number of dents and dings that would form between the spars. Am I over-engineering? :thinking:


I did mine exactly as the Cubby plans say and it has been fine since June of 2005 - not dents or dips or anything of the kind.