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Re: FRONT UTILITY BOX BECOMES REALITY

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Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:37 pm
by RandyG
Wow, that looks great!

I dont think I could have done as good of a job with a brake. What kind of hinge are you using? I would consider putting the hinged side on the side so you can put the box against the cabin without too much of a gap. Think about it after you make the lid to try it out.
Re: FRONT UTILITY BOX BECOMES REALITY

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Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:57 pm
by Roo Dog
MT,
Looking good.
RD
Re: FRONT UTILITY BOX BECOMES REALITY

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Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:12 pm
by pchast
Looks nice. Have you considered how to vent the propane
and the battery?

Re: FRONT UTILITY BOX BECOMES REALITY

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Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:37 am
by MontanaTeardrops
That's a thought, hinging on the side. Not sure what kind of hinge I'll use yet, but it will be rain and dust proof. As far as venting, I think I'll probably just make a couple of little vents out of Diamond Plate on the sides that point down at 45 degrees, or maybe go to Home Depot and buy a couple of the 1" round aluminum air vents for house soffits.
Randy, I'm open for suggestions on the vent and seal. Looks like in your profession you would have a pretty good idea. I'm one of those Jack Of All Trades And Master at a Couple....LOL
I think I have an easy solution for the seal already. I'm just going to get the 1" split foam pipe insulation and put it on the top edge for a seal. Dirt cheap and easy to replace.


Re: FRONT UTILITY BOX BECOMES REALITY

Posted:
Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:26 pm
by RandyG

I am also a jack of many trades. I think that seal would work, you just have to get you hinge at the right height to keep the lid level, and a latch that pulls it down tight. As far as the vent, not too sure on anything, not much experience there. But with it being right behind the tv, the box will be taking the blunt impact of everything your tires throw up. Could you put it on the bottom with the vent pointing to the back? Or maybe some kind of scoop over the vent on the side? The box looks so good it is going to be hard putting a big hole in it.
Re: FRONT UTILITY BOX BECOMES REALITY

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Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:36 pm
by MontanaTeardrops
The scoop on the side in the first pic is one idea I had. Maybe I'll look at putting it in the bottom too. You're right, I don't like poking holes in stuff either.
This should work for a seal if I put the hinge on the side.

Re: FRONT UTILITY BOX BECOMES REALITY

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Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:16 pm
by KCStudly
I like the idea of the lid tilting up and back with the hinge near the rear of the box so that access is not hindered from either side. Just have to put a cap piece along the back so that the hinge is far enough away from the back of the box so that the lid stays open when leaning against the front wall of the cabin (or against a lanyard or folding strut if you prefer). This is how I plan to do mine.
This would be a good place to use a short length of hurricane hinge, or a piano hinge with a flexible rubber strip over it.
Re: FRONT UTILITY BOX BECOMES REALITY

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Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:35 pm
by working on it
How about a stainless piano hinge on the front, with an internal strut rod to hold it open? Sealed as you have shown on front and sides, and most of the rear, except for an inch or two without a seal. The forward motion of the trailer would keep most contaminates out, and a piece of weatherstripping just below that gap would keep water from wicking up the back of the box into it. Of course the opening would vent the battery and/or propane.
Re: FRONT UTILITY BOX BECOMES REALITY

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Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:22 pm
by lilgription
Looks Great. That seal where the hinge is should never leak
Re: FRONT UTILITY BOX BECOMES REALITY

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Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:28 pm
by KCStudly
Wet battery wants vent at the top (lighter than air hydrogen) and propane wants vent at the bottom (heavier than air hydrocarbons).
There are reg.'s against storing propane in locked storage.
From the appropriate section of NFPA 1192 (which is incorporated by reference in DOT and many state regs.):
5.1.6.2 Securing LP-Gas Cylinder Housings.
5.1.6.2.1 Doors, hoods, domes, housings (or portions of housings), and enclosures required to be removed or opened for replacement of cylinders shall incorporate means for clamping them in place to prevent them from working loose during transit.
5.1.6.2.2 Hoods or housings covering valves shall not be equipped with locks or require special tools to open.
5.1.6.3 Valve Access Doors and Panels. Doors or panels providing access to valves shall not be equipped with locks or require tools to open.
Elsewhere there is plenty of info about keeping the cylinders up right so that the safety valves operate properly.
I haven't found anything that specifically regulates venting, but it seems to me that the best way is to mount the cylinder openly or in a shroud with an open bottom.
For me, I want to be able to lock my tongue box, so if I were to haul a propane cylinder, it would be outside of the tongue box.
Haven't found anything against locking the tank to the chassis, just not allowed to lock access to it.
Re: FRONT UTILITY BOX BECOMES REALITY

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Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:39 am
by Nobody
Re: FRONT UTILITY BOX BECOMES REALITY

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Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:54 am
by MontanaTeardrops
Hi everyone. Wow, lots of great ideas here to ponder over. I have never worked on a project that has taken as much thought as this one is. I really want this Teardrop to turn out nice because I want my friends and family to get into them too. It really helps getting these ideas from others who have built them. Good points on the propane being locked in a box, sounds like I'll have to mount it outside somewhere. I might have to find a way to cover the tank with diamond plate or nice paint. The bottle is only a 4 pound from Home Depot. Any opinions on mounting it right on top of the tongue box lid?
PS Harvey, I love your trailer, I had the same idea with diamond plate around the bottom.
Re: FRONT UTILITY BOX BECOMES REALITY

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Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:48 pm
by KCStudly
I would think on the lid would be a nuisance; every time you need to go digging in the box it would be in the way (needs to be mounted upright in normal position).
Will it fit in a bracket just in front of the box?
Re: FRONT UTILITY BOX BECOMES REALITY

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Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:49 pm
by MontanaTeardrops
Maybe this will work. I can use a thumb screw on one side of the clamp so it will be easy to remove. Or better yet, make a place for a lock on one side.
