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Latex paint = Acrylic paint?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:58 pm
by dales133
As the title suggests latex paint is practically unheard of here and it's generaly oil or acrylic.
I've asked at a few paint places in my travels and some say it's the same thing some say it isn't.
I'm getting close to the point of skinning and keeping my eye out for miss tints and generaly trying to find something suitable.
So if anyone could shed some light on the subject I'd apreciate it as it is rather confusing.
This is a common type acrylic paint here
http://www.taubmans.com.au/paints/endure-exterior

Re: Latex paint = Acrylic paint?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:53 am
by dales133
Someone must know!

Re: Latex paint = Acrylic paint?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:28 am
by bobhenry
I have had 20 years experience with this acrylic enamel and the stuff is bullet proof

http://vansicklepaint.com/tractor/index.html

I have had it on 3 trailer builds and 2 vehicles and it has stood the test of time.

Re: Latex paint = Acrylic paint?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:44 am
by dales133
Cheers Bob apreciate the reply.
Did you see the link I shared?
I want to paint it over canvas over ply and if I was to use the wrong g paint I'd be unhappy to say the least.
None here wants to know about what to suggest as it's outside the box

Re: Latex paint = Acrylic paint?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:36 am
by KCStudly
I didn't see anywhere at the link that identified what type of paint that is. Perhaps call them and see what they say?

... or do a test sample and see what you think. :thumbsup:

Re: Latex paint = Acrylic paint?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:52 am
by dales133
That's just it KC.
In Australia if you go to buy paint to paint anything other than cars it's oil based enamel or acrylic water based.
Technical speaking it may or may not be what you guys call latex but latex paint dosn't exist here in any normal capacity.
So I'm hoping / guessing it's the same but I realy don't know

Re: Latex paint = Acrylic paint?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:04 am
by KCStudly
I think most of our latex paint is becoming "acrylic latex", too, and am equally confused by the differences. If you believe the guy working in the big box store, "it's the same".

I know that this has been discussed here on the forums somewhere. GPW is a pretty good source for paint info.

Re: Latex paint = Acrylic paint?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:24 am
by dales133
Cool thanks, hopefully he'll chime in.
I've found most people at paint centers no less about paint than me other than a few sponsored products they up sell.
If you ask them anything out of the ordinary thier more screwed than Mr philips at a pozidrive convenrion


Here's an Australian dulux site, I presume it's sold here.
Listed are some common external paints....I just found this so I havnt read through it yet
http://m.dulux.com.au/product/exterior/walls

Re: Latex paint = Acrylic paint?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:19 pm
by Kharn
Acrylic paint is latex paint, but not all latex paint is acrylic.
The higher the percentage of acrylic in the mix, the higher quality the paint and the tougher the layer it makes. High end exterior paints will be 100% acrylic, at $40-50+ per gallon in the US (vs $20-25 for cheap stuff), I'm not sure what mark up you'll see in Australia or what brands are available.

Check the manufacturers' websites for the specific paint information, they go into very detailed specs and application guides for professional users/bid purposes that they don't bother to include on the cans themselves. For example, Valspar's 100% acrylic Duramax: Duramax, then select SemiGloss and download the PDF on the right.

For Taubmans, I found they have a lot more information on the professional side of the site: Pro site, hit Download All Datasheets, page 2 for Endure Exterior Semigloss, and the sheet says it is a 100% acrylic paint.

The paint is the first barrier to moisture entering your tear, 100% acrylic is well worth the extra effort to find and the price you'll pay. You should also use a 100% acrylic primer from the same company to ensure a good bond.

Re: Latex paint = Acrylic paint?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:39 pm
by dales133
Thanks very much khan.
Endure or the dulux equivalent looked like my most likely choice from what I'd read and both have a lifetime warranty here.

Re: Latex paint = Acrylic paint?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:40 pm
by Jack Olsen
Latex is a misnomer, since there is no latex in latex paint. Maybe there was, once, but the polymers used in contemporary water-based paint (used as binders) are synthetic. If you are allergic to latex, for example, you don't have to worry about being exposed to latex paint. The term latex is widely used to describe all water-based paints, whether they use 100% acrylic, latex or vinyl styrene polymers. Paint with 100% acrylic has (generally) better water resistance, stain protection, adhesion, and resist cracking and blistering better. 100% acrylic is a more expensive way to make paint. But get this: it's virtually impossible to tell the acrylic content from the label on most cans of paint, unfortunately. Broadly speaking, when it's in the paint's name you can hope that there's actually a higher acrylic content. But (as I understand it) you can't be certain.

(Disclaimer: I Googled this when I was researching something else, so I could be wildly wrong.)

Re: Latex paint = Acrylic paint?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:23 pm
by dales133
Thanks for that jack and everyone else for you help.
I can confidently buy what I suspected will work now and hopefully some miss tinted stuff for a couple of base coats