Door hinge question

[Kanook]

I'm using aluminum piano hinge to mount my doors and need a bit of advice. I see more pictures of the hinge mounted to both the face of the wall and door. I planned on mounting mine on the wall and door edge so less hinge is seen. Is one way more advisable?
Thanks

[TimC]

The simple answer is end grain is much weaker in terms of holding screws than edge, or face grain. If you are mounting into end grain at any point of the hinge it will likely be a weak point. If you are screwing into edge, or face grain along those walls it shouldn't make a whole lot of difference which face you mount to, especially with a piano hinge. With a piano hinge if most of the anchor points are edge grain a weak screw or two may not be a problem. With strap hinges it would be more critical due to less anchoring points. Good luck with your build!

[kayakdlk]

You mean like this



It worked fine. I use Steve Fredericks method for seals and use a router to recess the hinge in the door and body edges a little so only the hinge part is showing. The recess kept the door gap down to the minimum. I made sure my door jambs and door edges were a solid piece of wood . I think I use popular or red oak for the hinge edge. A little harder wood than pine to hold screws. Never had any issues.

Dan

[Kanook]

You mean like this



It worked fine. I use Steve Fredericks method for seals and use a router to recess the hinge in the door and body edges a little so only the hinge part is showing. The recess kept the door gap down to the minimum. I made sure my door jambs and door edges were a solid piece of wood . I think I use popular or red oak for the hinge edge. A little harder wood than pine to hold screws. Never had any issues.

Dan

Yes. That's the way I was hoping to mount mine. Thanks

[KCStudly]

So while we're on this topic, what's the best way to make sure that the door is aligned properly in the opening when using this hinge arrangement?

I won't be using piano hinge, but will be orienting my lift off hinges in the same fashion, inside the jamb. My thought was to shim the door in the opening and make temporary match marks on the outer face, then do a careful layout to transfer the screw locations to the jambs with a small combo square.

Is there a better way?

[dales133]

If you do as you described and make the hinge location on the jambs you can get a spring loaded hinge drill witch is invaluable for accuracy for this type of situation.

[KCStudly]

I know the one you mean and wish I had one of those while fitting my hatch hinge.

[Woodbutcher]

If you do as you described and make the hinge location on the jambs you can get a spring loaded hinge drill witch is invaluable for accuracy for this type of situation.

Vixbit....a worth while tool.


http://www.amazon.com/Set-of-3-Vix-Bits ... rds=vexbit

[aggie79]

So while we're on this topic, what's the best way to make sure that the door is aligned properly in the opening when using this hinge arrangement?

I won't be using piano hinge, but will be orienting my lift off hinges in the same fashion, inside the jamb. My thought was to shim the door in the opening and make temporary match marks on the outer face, then do a careful layout to transfer the screw locations to the jambs with a small combo square.

Is there a better way?

KC,

I know this is an apples to oranges comparison of what you're trying to do - my hinge leaves are exposed; your's will be inset - but I made a jig to locate the hinge holes on the jamb and door. In the picture of the jig below, you can barely make out the layout lines. I used a drill press and fence to establish parallel holes for the screws.



The jig was designed so that the I could remove the door side of the jig, register the sidewall side of the jig against the door, and then drill (using vixbit) holes for the door side of the hinge leaves. Next I attached the hinges to the door. Then I shimmed the door in place in the door opening and drilled holes for the sidewall screws and fastened the hinges.

Perhaps you could make a 90 degree jig to register against the sidewall to provide a consistent depth for the screw holes.

Take care,
Tom

[KCStudly]

Excellent, Tom. I can work with that. Thank you!

[Pmullen503]

Nice hinge jig!