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Vertical hinge - waterproofing?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:20 pm
by Mitchelkitman
I'm looking at a build using GRP panels that hinge vertically and butt together (hinge to be on outside face of panels which will have a right-angle return edge). My first though was piano hinges with some rubber (maybe cycle inner tube cut up) folded around the hinge and sandwiched, thus creating a waterproof seal. Possible negatives.. expensive and fiddly to assemble. 2nd thought was a plastic hinge, negatives expensive, durable only if horizontal? My third thought is 3 brass butt hinges, positioned equally along the length - but how to seal? Could I just wax the face of one GRP panel and put a silicone bead between the panels, close panels together and wait for it to dry....... Silicone will stick to 1 of the panels (but not the waxed 1) giving a perfect seal - What do others think? Would it work for me as being a cheap, durable and easy fix?

Re: Vertical hinge - waterproofing?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:40 am
by rmclarke
I did the 'inner tube-under-the-aluminum piano hinge' thing with silicone.....worked for about 3 years, then it started leaking; Tiny holes started from all the open/close/open/close etc....it doesn't take much of a hole for it to leak. Replaced it with a hurricane hinge....wish I would have done so from the start.

Yeah, I saved a few bucks at first, but, I don't think it was worth it in the long run, when you consider my time, effort and materials. I had to install the hatch twice plus the cost of the original hinge, silicone and inner tube and then I wind up buying hurricane hinge anyway!

I understand wanting to build frugally, but many times, what is inexpensive in the short term winds up being more expensive in the long run.

That's just my experiential 2 cents worth.

Richard

Re: Vertical hinge - waterproofing?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:44 am
by rmclarke
I'm sorry, I just reread the title of your post. Your said 'vertical hinge' and I was talking about the horizontal hinge over the galley.....my bad....it's late :oops:

Re: Vertical hinge - waterproofing?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:30 am
by 3GKnight
I'm curious about this too. Mine has a piano hinge with some weatherstripping on the fixed face. The door face seems to seal up tight to it but it hasn't been tested yet.

Re: Vertical hinge - waterproofing?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:41 am
by bobhenry
I let the door trim do the weatherproofing by staggering the 1x3 picture frame trim. In his little illustration the red is the 1x trim the blue is the body wall and the black is the door. The interior trim is fastened to the wall and the outside one is attached to the door. Some weather stripping can be added if needed.

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Re: Vertical hinge - waterproofing?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:53 am
by 3GKnight
bobhenry wrote:I let the door trim do the weatherproofing by staggering the 1x3 picture frame trim. In his little illustration the red is the 1x trim the blue is the body wall and the black is the door. The interior trim is fastened to the wall and the outside one is attached to the door. Some weather stripping can be added if needed.


Does the interior trim possibly create a 'gutter' at the sill? I'm sure the exterior trim keeps most of it out but if there is some leakage, does it collect at the sill or run out?

Re: Vertical hinge - waterproofing?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:15 am
by bobhenry
Hell I had to look, I had forgotten.

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The outside trim was omitted at the bottom so it could drain. The inside trim is just a tiny bit proud to keep any stray rain drops out of the interior.

Re: Vertical hinge - waterproofing?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:35 pm
by H.A.
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Re: Vertical hinge - waterproofing?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:57 am
by Tomterrific
I use a labarinth seal like bobhenry's. I'm surprised how well it works. I used aluminum J bead for a gutter over the top to deflect water to the sides away from the door.

T

Re: Vertical hinge - waterproofing?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:50 am
by Mitchelkitman
H.A. wrote:I use a gear hinge. There are dozens of profiles available.


They do look effective. Unfortunately they don't appear to be easily available in uk - one I found was over £250 for 2m length!