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Fender fix??

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:14 pm
by Steve Frederick
I just picked up a pair of fenders from eBay. Trouble is, they've been cut..
Who was the one who fixed his fenders that were simmalarly affected?
Did a search on fenders...Do you know how many times we talk fenders?? :?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:56 pm
by Gage
Steve, what do they look like? We might as well start up another thread (right here) on how to fix Steve's fenders. :thinking:

Have a good day.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:15 pm
by norm perkiss
Steve,
I found this thread on John's fender repair, is it the one you were looking for?

http://tnttt.com/viewto ... ld&start=0

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:40 pm
by Steve Frederick
Gage wrote:Steve, what do they look like? We might as well start up another thread (right here) on how to fix Steve's fenders. :thinking:

Have a good day.

8)

I'll snap some pics tomorrow! They're '33 ford repros. I got them for $82...The seller turned out to be a neighbor, a couple of miles away!

Oh!! That thread is the one I was thinking of...Mine are not that bad..I think!!
Thanx!!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:56 pm
by Gage
You know I bet I know which ones your talking about. Are the fenders fiberglass and was it the flange area that is cut/trimmed? If so, maybe some fiberglass work will be in line for repair. With your wood working skills, you could make a cheep mold that the fender could lay in and be clamped in place and then add some cloth and a piece of thin soft alum angle (glassed in) formed to carry the contour of the fender. Am I close?

Have a good day.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:53 pm
by john
Steve,

Yea, those were my fenders. Sounds like you got a better deal than I did. Post some pics.

Gage is right! Wood working, boats; no problem for you!!
'Nuff said.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:30 pm
by Steve Frederick
Gage, you're right..John you too!
It's sort of De-Ja-Vu!!
I'm thinking along the lines of some 1/8" ply, got lots of scrap, wrapped around the fender like you did, John. And I think I'll steal the other part of your idea..To make a flange for mounting..

Are the holes in the center of the rear portion of the fender for tail-lights?

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I just started two frames today, I probably will putter with the repairs here and there, so, progress will be a tad slow. ;)
Thanx Guys!! :thumbsup:

Oh! How would you attack all those holes!!!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:35 pm
by Steve Frederick
Gage, I just re-read your post..How would you 'glass the aluminum to the fender?? Will it hold? It sounds a lot easier than building up a flange.. :thumbsup:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:29 pm
by Gage
Steve Frederick wrote:Gage, I just re-read your post..How would you 'glass the aluminum to the fender?? Will it hold? It sounds a lot easier than building up a flange.. :thumbsup:

I would form it and then incase it in glass cloth. It would be a part of your patch. As for the holes. There's a couple of ways you can go. Glass a thin piece of alum to the underside and then bondo the holes or you could taper both sides of the holes and fill with epoxy. As for the two holes in the center rear of the fenders. Looks like they were for tail lights.

Hope that helped, have a good day.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:53 pm
by john
They are the same thing!!
I had considered glassing in the aluminum form on my repair. The AL would have had to have been attached to the inside of the fender following the contour (real rough on my fenders). Following the outside of the fender with a perminant AL form would have made an attractive finish more difficult and that is where the real work is anyway. With the AL form on the inside, though, makeing the flage would have been a 2 stage process and perhaps weaker. In the end I scraped the idea because i didn't trust the long term effects of heating/cooling on the built in AL and I didn't like the increased difficulties stated above. What really cinched it for me was someone in my thread bringing up wax paper as a release agent. I had no problem lining everything with wax paper and after less than an hour cure time the wax paper pulled right off. No problem.

The only thing I did that made the glass part a two stage process was after removeing the aluminum form and wax paper from the out side of the fender was that I added a single layer of fiberglass over the seam between the original fender and my repair to add strength. I was unable to get to that seam while the AL form was in place. I added this single layer while the repair was still warm.

I look forward to following the choices you make. By the way, it took me 2 or 3 months of piddiling every so often to fix the fenders. On top of that I didn't mount them but a couple of weeks ago.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:48 pm
by Steve Frederick
John,
Did you use epoxy or polyester resin??
Any trouble mixing epoxy with polyester..I assume the fenders were done in polyester..I have epoxy.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:00 pm
by john
Something else just occured to me. I don't know if it applies to your fenders.
There is something I don't like about mine and I did't notice it untill after fixing them and trying them on for size. They flare away from the sides at the leading edge. This means that while the sides of the tires are flush with the edge of the fender from the trailing edge forward, they at some point become no longer flush with the wheel at the leading edge and the fenders look too wide for the wheel. Looking at it from the front to the rear, though, they look great.
It may be something to consider before you start working on them. I'll try to post pics tomorrow.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:02 pm
by john
You posted the question while i was writing.

Epoxy. Smelled just like bondo.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:24 pm
by Micro469
Steve... Looks like you fenders were used fo exactly the same thing as John's..... :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:55 pm
by goldcoop
Steve-

I don't know if this helps, but it is interesting!

http://www.retroteardrop.com/project/build/fender1.php

Cheers,

Coop