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Galvanized Fasteners.... or not

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:22 pm
by Capebuild
Hi. I'm stocking up on fasteners and it occurred to me... should I be using galvanized.

For instance,I'm looking for 18 gauge 1/4" crown staples. Do people use galvanized or just the standard metal staples?
Seems galvanized staples are few and far between. How about screws for use with a Kreg jig.
Are galvanized ones used or just the standard Kreg screws?

Any insights would be helpful.

Thank you.

John

Re: Galvanized Fasteners.... or not

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:58 pm
by saltydawg
I would stainless if you can. Galvanized would be fine when filled and painted over, but stainless is even better and a lot less chance of a problem later

Re: Galvanized Fasteners.... or not

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:55 pm
by MickinOz
I used Tufcote or Climacoat screws. These are coatings applied over galvanised screws. Designed to not corrode even in timber treated with copper based preservatives.
No sign of rust streaks yet.
For crown staples I used galvanised PowerFit 6000 series.
Bought a $25 project pack of 4000 staples.
Surprised you can't find them.
Without going out to the shed and confirming, I'm pretty sure they have "Made in USA" on the box.
They aren't bleeding rust anywhere either, but that might be because I sealed all external staples with more polyurethane, then paint.
I'd have used stainless steel staples if I could have found some to buy.

Re: Galvanized Fasteners.... or not

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:46 pm
by halfdome, Danny
If it's covered up use what you like, if exposed use stainless steel screws.
I bondo all fasteners that are under the aluminum skins.
I use pocket screws on interior parts like the galley countertop, the bottom shelf of my footboard cabinet partitions etc
:D Danny.

Re: Galvanized Fasteners.... or not

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:14 pm
by gudmund
when it comes to "Stainless", there is good stainless and there is bad - something to do with it's 'nickel' content. Put a magnet to it = if it -"'adheres"- is drawn to it = bad stainless...can or will rust later......... - No magnetic draw = has more nickel in it, thus = GOOD stuff = no rust later................... (personally have found 'most' China made stainless is BAD and India made = usually GOOD..............) Was taught/shown this when working for Boeing over 40 years ago = for whatever that is worth?? :roll: :?

Re: Galvanized Fasteners.... or not

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:51 am
by GarthB
I've used stainless screws for a lot of the connections on my build due to corrosion resistance, however, there have been drawbacks. Stainless is more brittle and I've had a number of screws shear when fastening to my hardwood cross members. Pilot holes going into higher density material have needed to be slightly larger than the pilot holes for plywood-to-plywood connections.

Stainless also corrodes aluminum when the two materials are in contact with each other. I tried to sidestep this issue when using aluminum shims on my trailer by oversizing the holes and filling them with epoxy just before putting a stainless bolt through them. Time will tell whether or not the epoxy worked as a barrier between the two.

Re: Galvanized Fasteners.... or not

PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:27 am
by Philip
304 is the alloy number of the stainless that rusts. Most stainless bolts found around hardware style stores are 304 alloy. The higher number alloy bolts most of the time you have to get from factory supply type companys.

If you can't find a alloy number on a bolt display your looking at. Assume it is 304. Don't even waste time asking one of the store helpers. He won't know.

Re: Galvanized Fasteners.... or not

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:06 pm
by western traveler
John, these are the crown staples I am using. They came from one of the big box stores.
165960

Re: Galvanized Fasteners.... or not

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:41 pm
by KCStudly
In my experience, for practical purposes, 304 SS will only have rust issues when in contact with saltwater, in which case 316 is preferred

Re: stainless on aluminum corrosion, I would only worry about that in harsh environments. For interior (i.e. dry) applications I don't think it matters. (If there is no liquid the cathodic action can't fester... i.e. no "battery acid" = no battery.)

Re: Galvanized Fasteners.... or not

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:26 pm
by aggie79
halfdome, Danny wrote:If it's covered up use what you like, if exposed use stainless steel screws.
I bondo all fasteners that are under the aluminum skins.
I use pocket screws on interior parts like the galley countertop, the bottom shelf of my footboard cabinet partitions etc
:D Danny.


+1

Re: Galvanized Fasteners.... or not

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:40 pm
by tony.latham
I use galvanized 1/4" crown staples and have never seen one rust.

:thumbsup:

But that's here in 'Murica! ;)

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Tony