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I hate Henry

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 6:37 am
by asianflava
I had my first experience with the Henry 663 last night. I must say, I hate it more than the Gardners. It seems to get all over the place and when it does, it is sticky...and stays sticky. After my mistake of not using gloves, I donned my last set and continued (that didn't stop it from gettin on my arms though).

I used the recomended notched spreader but it seemed to use a lot of adhesive. I resorted to grabbing a handful (gloved handful) and spreading it around, then hitting it with the notched spreader.

I asked how much I would need in a different thread. It looks like I will probably use a whole gallon on just the 2 sides. That is a lot more than was suggested.

For the folks who used it, did you go for 100% coverage?
How much did you use?

Re: I hate Henry

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:30 am
by Steve Frederick
asianflava wrote:I had my first experience with the Henry 663 last night. I must say, I hate it more than the Gardners. It seems to get all over the place and when it does, it is sticky...and stays sticky. After my mistake of not using gloves, I donned my last set and continued (that didn't stop it from gettin on my arms though).

I used the recomended notched spreader but it seemed to use a lot of adhesive. I resorted to grabbing a handful (gloved handful) and spreading it around, then hitting it with the notched spreader.

I asked how much I would need in a different thread. It looks like I will probably use a whole gallon on just the 2 sides. That is a lot more than was suggested.

For the folks who used it, did you go for 100% coverage?
How much did you use?


Hi Rocky!
I used it on Peg's aluminum roof. I did a very thin 100% spread with a disposable notched trowel. I applied it Saturday, It's still not set!! This is day 4! When I release the clamps, the metal starts to spring up!! I Have to move on, so I'll dream up a way to secure it as I go with the trim..Oh!! I have a bunch of scratches to deal with also!! :x I'd rather stick with wood!! But, I also need to add skills to my bag of tricks.

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:03 am
by Sonetpro
Rocky, I only used about 1/2 gallon for the whole thing. I used the disposable trowels. 1/16" notch. That stuff does get all over the place. It seems to jump out. I got it all over me, my clothes, my shoes, the wife,the cat and anything else whithin 20'. I attatched the bottom trim and used painters tape to hold it down when curing. It says on the pail that it takes a week to cure. It's so humid down here it took about 2 weeks. The aluminum trimmed nicely with a rotozip after.


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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:16 am
by Steve Frederick
Sonetpro wrote:Rocky, I only used about 1/2 gallon for the whole thing. I used the disposable trowels. 1/16" notch. That stuff does get all over the place. It seems to jump out. I got it all over me, my clothes, my shoes, the wife,the cat and anything else whithin 20'. I attatched the bottom trim and used painters tape to hold it down when curing. It says on the pail that it takes a week to cure. It's so humid down here it took about 2 weeks. The aluminum trimmed nicely with a rotozip after.

Did it eventually stay put?? The aluminum??

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:24 am
by Sonetpro
Steve it finally cured after a couple weeks. I don't think I would trust it with out the trim though.

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:25 am
by BILLYL
Steve-

I had the same experience. Took a couple of weeks to completely dry.

Bill

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:46 am
by toypusher
I used the Henry's 663 and my Cubby took about 1/4 gallon. (got a damaged gallon container at 1/2 price from an ACE hardware store). I used the 1/16th inch square notch trowel and all went smooth. I used it for 100% coverage an the sides and on the doors. I did not use it on the roof due to the fact that my AL is directly on the spars with no underlayment. (except insulation) It is really sticky stuff, but mineral spirits seems to cut it really nicely. Just be a bit careful when spreading it and keep a rag wetted with Mineral spirits handy to wipe up mistakes. I applied it to the plywood and then pressed the AL onto it and it seemed to stick pretty good almost immediately. Just have something to prop the AL on along the bottom. I used nails driven in between the bottom of the sides and the frame. If your frame is hidden, you could put some plates of wood or metal along the bottom to support the AL until you can get the trim on. Just make sure to press (or better yet, roller) the AL from the middle and work to the outside to work out any bubbles. Mine does not even bulge when it is out in the sun and gets heated up.

Just my experience!

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:34 pm
by asianflava
Sonetpro wrote:Rocky, I only used about 1/2 gallon for the whole thing. I used the disposable trowels. 1/16" notch.


Wow I think I used 1/2 gallon for just one side! I see one problem, I used an 1/8in notched spreader. That is what they recommended on the side of the tub. I will probably buy some more this afternoon, I don;t want to run out in the middle of the night.

I don't totally trust it either, last night, I glued the skin down and installed the door and hatch lip trim. That way, I know it won't slide. After I glued it down, I noticed that it was sliding downward. I was able to move it back into place by putting some trim on the bottom lip and using some jacks to jack it back into place. I guess that is one of it's advantages, being able to move it once it has been stuck down.

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 6:10 pm
by Juli n Bill
We used a strong spray adhesive just to tack down the aluminum, then relied on the trim to hold it in place. Letting the aluminum float. Bought the Henrys but it looked way to messy. It's been almost a year and the sides haven't fallen off yet. :)