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Show me your hatch detail please

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:14 pm
by Miriam C.
Ok, So I am just plotting away and getting my frame going and suddenly I get to the back. :duh: I was going to do a cut away like spadinators but I don't have the small details. Like how do I frame the side edges, and what do I skin it with. and if the skin lays over the side smoothly what protects the edges.

So please help me out. If you could post a detail picture of your hatch and how your hatch meets the sides I would be soooo Greatful. :worship:

Greatfully
Aunti M. lost in Missouri

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:51 am
by Nobody
Meee too!! I'd like to add my request to Miriam's :NC . Think I know how I want to do it but seein' a coupl'a different ways would sure be nice. Thanks 8)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:30 am
by Classic Finn
I guess I,ll join the Party ..... :lol: :lol: :lol: Ohhh please do show the galley area discussed above as I have to learn that part as well.... :lol: :lol:


Classic Finn
Classic Finn Lost in Finland


PS I couldnt just let you folks be there alone... :lol: :D

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:53 pm
by mikeschn
Miriam,

I take it there wasn't enough detail in the Generic Benroyl plans to show you how that works? :?

Okay, I can pull up the model in CAD. I'll work on getting you a decent section view.

(other than going in the pool, it's too hot to do anything else)

Mike...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:12 pm
by Miriam C.
Mike, get outa the water. Haven't ya heard its bad for you. Here I am sawing 2"x6"x10" and your out playing. :lol: just joking.

The benroy plans have the sides notched. I have sandwich walls in front of the bulkhead and so far have left the back part alone. The walls are 3/8" and not substantial enough to stand alone.

Soooo since I am just having to plan something I thought I would look at how others let the sides meet the hatch and hear the pro's and cons.

PS. I would love for you to cad something (easy) up. The galley gallery is great but doesn't have closeups.

Miriam

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:34 pm
by mikeschn
Okay, I picture what you have.

Tell me what you are thinking of doing... Are you going to make a sandwich wall in the galley area too? Or are you just going to put in the furring strips and leave it open?

Mike...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:21 pm
by Miriam C.
:lol: Making me think about it isn't really fair, I'm old and not really experienced in the art.
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Ok I did the strip all the way to the galley wall and stopped. I have wall studs 16" on center, like JP lock. The framing is a true 1" thick.

I don't know if I should vaneer some 1/2" ply to the wall and cut :shock: Or carry the framing all the way down to the counter. And---if I do that do I have to figure out how to frame the hatch seperately?

The bottom will be panned off as you suggested, with counters opening. I am guessing I can do that the same way I did the front with some beefing up.

The problem is I got stuck at the galley wall because it doesn't lend itself to what I had planned, which was to cut the hatch away after it was built :? So I was looking for something else.

Confused yet.
Aunti M

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:50 pm
by mikeschn
Here's one way to do it...

Continue your furring strips around the back.

Then notch out for the hatch... 1/4 or 3/8, depending on the size weatherstrip you plan on using.

Not shown, but you'll need a frame member for the galley counter too.

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Mike...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:52 pm
by Jiminsav
I'm confussed, and I've built two hatches. :?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:57 pm
by asianflava
I'll go out and take some pics. I probably won't be able to post them till later tonight.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:18 pm
by mikeschn
Okay, here is the wall rib for your counter! ;)

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Mike...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:32 pm
by toypusher
Miriam,

Look at my 'www' which is a link to my Yahoo photos of my build.

Reference "Galley floor and sides.jpg", "Galley floor and sides 2.jpg" to see how I cut the notch for the hatch. My walls are 3/8" thick.

Then look at "110VAC started.jpg", and "120VAC installed.jpg" to see the 1/2" channel aluminum that I put over them after installing the exterior and interior skins.

The 1/8" exterior skin on the hatch overhangs the sidewalls by about 1/8" on each side of the tear. The aluminum exterior skin is also overhanging and then 1" angle aluminum is pop riveted to the exterior of the hatch and it hangs down over the outside of the exterior walls. I used 3/4" highdensity foam weather seal in the groove created on the hatch by the overhanging AL angle.

Across the bottom, I used 'T' AL moulding and some weather seal.

Sorry that I don't have good photos right now. I may have a chance tomorrow PM to take some, but I can not promise.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:24 pm
by Miriam C.
Thanks Mike, So basicly I am gonna make a hatch. :oops: :worship:

Thank you also Asian and Toy Pusher. Pictures add so much to my learning process.

Toy pusher, the "working on the sink and water" shows a real good view of the corner too.

:BE Those of you who are inclined to ridicule my request for pictures or rambling discriptions may want to remember that I am not the only non-craftsman or builder looking for answers. I had a really trying day today and it doesn't seem to be getting better so please excuse my lack of humor.

I really wanted to help others along with getting a different idea for myself.

Please, those of you who wish to help. Post away. We love da pics
Aunti M

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:29 pm
by mikeschn
Sorry to hear you had a rough day...

But remember a bad day on the boat (teardrop) is better than a good day in the office!!! 8)

Mike...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:00 pm
by Miriam C.
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