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Roads for Ira

Postby angib » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:08 pm

Or more specifically, as Kevin so delicately put it, roads for Ira to crap his pants on. I get the feeling that Yurp can offer some roads that would surprise Merkan visitors.

One of the more enterprising roads near me is Hardknott Pass - it's about 10ft wide (so you have to cooperate with anyone coming the other way), up to 1-in-3 (33%) steep and has plenty of hairpin bends. Here's an easy bit of it:

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But in southern Yurp, in the Alps, there are some quite serious bits of road. Here is one of the most famous, the Stelvio Pass in Italy:

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Italian passes are 'best' experienced in a bus - if you sit near the front, as you go around the hairpin bends there is no road visible in front of the bus at all. Gulp....

How's them pants, Ira?

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Postby Ira » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:56 pm

Compared to the cliffs of the Pacific Coast Highway--that's KID STUFF!

Except because you guys drive on the wrong sides of the road there, I WOULD crap my pants.
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Postby gasmanptb » Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:13 pm

Rt 250 through George Washington National forest is no joke either, Well at least in the winter. Good scenery. HAve to take pics on the way home next time. Cecil
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Postby TRAIL-OF-TEARS » Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:43 pm

Tioga pass in Yosemite got me I had to let my wife drive. The rest of Yosemite was fine, there are lots of trees. I am from the rio grand valley Texas flat land. I use to hide under the seats in my dads van when we went over an overpass. I would plead with him to exit and take the access road and then get back on. :cry: I am much better now.
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Postby halfdome, Danny » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:17 pm

I've driven Tioga Pass (Yosemite) and highway 1 (Big Sir) many times but Wolf Creek Pass in Colorado was the toughest on any vehicle of mine. I was pulling a utility trailer and had to stay in first gear and it was a 6 cylinder full size pick-up truckin great condition. The sucker smoked going up it and it never did that before or after. Danny
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Postby Ira » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:28 pm

Hey--time for a HIJACK!!!

Have you guys heard what they're doing at the Grand Canyon? This is the COOLEST thing ever conceived on Earth!

They're building this really, really, REALLY long GLASS walkway, so you can walk out from the edge and literally be standing in the air all of those thousands and thousands of feet up in the air.

Time for me to leave the office so no time to search for a link about it, but isn't that INTENSE? I would think that a lot of people simply wouldn't be able to do it--me included.
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Postby subtearanean » Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:22 pm

The news articls says it should have been opened Jan 2006?

http://tinyurl.com/apwnx

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Postby IndyTom » Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:34 pm

My Dad grew up in S.E Tennesee WAY back in the woods. when I was about 9 0r 10, he took me for a ride over one of the mountains. To this day (i'm 44 now) my palms go sweaty if I even think about that road. Im not even sure it was a real road if you know what I mean. Andrew, I may be a crazy Merkan, but those roads look like fun, just not in my wife's Ford Expidition.

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Postby Laredo » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:44 pm

Andrew: Those roads were made for a CB750F4 SuperSport ...




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Postby madjack » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:03 pm

...this thread made me think of an old truckers saying about driving in general..."75% boredom, 20% mildly interesting and 5% absolute and total terror....after living in the Rockies and driving 2 million miles in big rigs, I have seen my share of high "pucker factor" roads and situations....
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Postby Kevin A » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:42 pm

subtearanean wrote:The news articls says it should have been opened Jan 2006?

http://tinyurl.com/apwnx

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Hey, are they gonna allow bungee jumping off that thing?
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Postby cracker39 » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:51 pm

I've driven some mountain roads in the smokies where you looked out to one side and saw cars across a steep dropoff. But one of the best memories was in Georgia. It was nothing compared to some of those mentioned, but for me, driving a 71 Dodge Polara, pulling a tent camper, it was no walk in the park.

I took a wrong turn but didn't realize it. The highway we were on, grew smaller and narrower as we went up. Finally, it turned into a gravel road with dropoffs and no place to back a trailer to turn around. We had no choice but to keep going. Finally, the trees thinned out and we were looking out over what I found out later was Cloud Canyon. We finally started down and eventually hit a highway. But, driving a big car not intended for off road, pulling a trailer over that mountain on a rocky gravel road was quite an experience.
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Postby Geron » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:56 am

cracker39 wrote:I've driven some mountain roads in the smokies where you looked out to one side and saw cars across a steep dropoff. But one of the best memories was in Georgia. It was nothing compared to some of those mentioned, but for me, driving a 71 Dodge Polara, pulling a tent camper, it was no walk in the park.

I took a wrong turn but didn't realize it. The highway we were on, grew smaller and narrower as we went up. Finally, it turned into a gravel road with dropoffs and no place to back a trailer to turn around. We had no choice but to keep going. Finally, the trees thinned out and we were looking out over what I found out later was Cloud Canyon. We finally started down and eventually hit a highway. But, driving a big car not intended for off road, pulling a trailer over that mountain on a rocky gravel road was quite an experience.


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Postby Ira » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:34 am

Thanks for finding a link, Sub! Yeah, a friend of mine told me the same thing--it was supposed to be finished awhile ago, but was delayed for some reason.

And another treacherous road story, which might ring a bell with some of you Northern Californians:

Back in the early 80s, single and a pocketful of cash, I went to CA for 2 weeks vacation, and I was on the northbound LA to Monterey, Pacific Coast Highway (1) route. I had heard reports that it was closed substantially north of San Luis Obispo because of rock slides, but of course, I didn't think this applied to me.

Until I came to a pile of rubble and had to turn back.

Well, my destination was Monterey, and I stopped into a little store to ask if I had to head all the way back to San Luis Obispo to connect with 101 and get north, and in the guy's best redneck accent:

"Heck, no son! Just git yourself about a mile up that way, and take Nacimiento Road over to that there 101!"

Well, weeks later, I learned that this was a LOGGERS road, and I must have driven 5 miles, going up at a 45% angle, on this dirt road that was maybe 12 inches wider than my tiny rental car. One lane.

Plus, after driving for an HOUR to go just 10, 15 miles, I would look down and see that U.S. 1 was still right down there--like, yeah, I drove UP a lot, but I hardly drove EAST at all connect with 101. And it as getting DARK.

Took me FOREVER to find a place to make a u-turn and head back down.

Anyone familiar with Nacimiento Road? I think that later, they developed it into a real road, but man, was that a nightmare.
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Postby Ma3tt » Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:09 am

Near Pfiefer Big Sur great campground if you are doing the coast.

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