Margarine is bad, really bad for you

Things that don't fit anywhere else...

Margarine is bad, really bad for you

Postby pauld3 » Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:27 pm

Margarine is ONE MOLECULE away from being
PLASTIC...

This fact alone was enough to have me avoiding
margarine for life and anything else that is
hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing
the molecular structure of the substance).

You can try this yourself:

Purchase a tub of margarine and leave it in your
garage or shaded area. Within a couple of days you
will note a couple of things: * no flies, not even
those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that should
tell you something) * it does not rot or smell
differently because it has no nutritional value,
nothing will grow on it even those teeny weenie
microorganisms will not a find a home to grow.
Why? Because it is nearly plastic. Would you melt
your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?

"Food for thought, you guys!" :roll:

Lynn
Paul & Lynn Donovan
The Toad Drop Inn
Liberal, KS
Image
User avatar
pauld3
The 300 Club
 
Posts: 432
Images: 94
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:00 pm
Location: Kansas, Liberal

Postby sdtripper2 » Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:55 pm

Lynn wrote:Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?


Image+Image+Image+Image=Image

You made me smile Lynn ~
"A man who is good enough to shed his blood for his country
is good enough to be given a square deal afterwards." -------Theodore Roosevelt

Steve
User avatar
sdtripper2
Search Garoux
 
Posts: 2162
Images: 168
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:32 am
Location: California, ... San Diego

Postby Mary K » Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:20 pm

Lynn, have you done that test with margarine?? Did you get pictures? If not you should, and take pictures. :twisted:


Mk
Mary K

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. Bilbo Baggins
User avatar
Mary K
6000 Club
6000 Club
 
Posts: 6425
Images: 44
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:07 pm
Location: Florida, Pensacola
Top

Postby halfdome, Danny » Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:22 pm

We have it in the refer but rarely use the stuff. I saw somewhere that butter was better for you in moderation than margarine and we use both very little. When I'm the one shopping I read labels (Mom worked in a health food store) to see what the ingredients are in a product and shop accordingly to what I do or don't want in my body. There are several brands that are non-hydrogenated like this one. Like anything you need to know what your buying and the gument has required labels for quite awhile now. :D Danny
Image
ImageImage
"Conditions are never just right. People who delay action until all factors are favorable do nothing". William Feather
Don't accept "It's Good Enough" build to the best of your abilities.
Image
Teardroppers Of Oregon & WashingtonImage
User avatar
halfdome, Danny
*Happy Camper
 
Posts: 5894
Images: 252
Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:02 pm
Location: Washington , Pew-al-up
Top

Postby Ira » Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:27 pm

What about that Smart Balance stuff?

A few years, I listened to my doctor and followed his advice for a whole week to control my cholesterol, so I used that instead of butter.

Like I said, I only did it for a week, and everything tasted SO much better after I stopped that nonsense.
Here we go again!
User avatar
Ira
Forum Storyteller
 
Posts: 5652
Images: 118
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:16 pm
Location: South Florida
Top

Postby raprap » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:16 pm

It is really a question of saturated fats vs. unsaturated fats. Margarine is a product of vegetable oils where butter comes from animal oils. Animal oils and fats tend to contain less unsaturated carbon carbon bonds than vegetable oils--as a result they tend to have higher melting points than vegetable oils of a similar molecular weight.

As for health--because of a higher concentration of unsaturated fats vegetable oils tend to be less likely to be converted to cholesterol, consequently one would expect that margarines are healthier--but IMO they don't taste as good. For instance fried potatoes are always tastier when fried in lard.

BTW a good substitute for margarine (and lard and butter in general) is vegetable oils (canola and olive oils are my favorites) which spread on toast and jelly and pop corn just fine.

As for the plastic threat--plastic is just another polymerized carbon, just like most biological compounds-just (in general) simpler. As for other examples the difference between cellulose (cotton and wood) and polycarbohydrates is the orientation of a single bond in the glucose chains. Termites are able to convert cellulose to carbohydrates because of an enzyme produced by a symbiotic bug that lives in their gut.

Rap
Kentucky Pool Made a Fool out of me.
Instead of Tennessee River it looks like I'm headed to the deep blue sea.

JHartford
User avatar
raprap
Teardrop Master
 
Posts: 243
Images: 4
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:28 pm
Location: Where ever the wheels stop rolling
Top

Postby Nitetimes » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:42 pm

Butter!!!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Yup, I'm guilty of it, large quantities sometimes, love the stuff. Yummm!

Never did like margarine. It just ain't natural when the stuff don't melt when you spread it on warm rolls or even when it sits in the sun for that matter.
Don't taste right either.
Rich


Image
ImageImage
-
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to
keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves
against tyranny in government.
- Thomas Jefferson -
Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take a butt kickin'.
User avatar
Nitetimes
7000 Club
7000 Club
 
Posts: 7909
Images: 194
Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:44 am
Location: Butler,PA
Top

Postby ARKPAT » Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:37 pm

I ran the bugs off my house plants with DIET COLA. They left home with saying good by. They returned after a few weeks of plain water thought. So to combat that every few weeks the diet cola was used to keep the bugs away. You are right at that point I quit using diet anything. If nature doesn't like it their might be a reason? :roll: :thinking:


:thumbsup:
Pat
Life is to short always eat dessert first.
User avatar
ARKPAT
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1549
Images: 77
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:45 am
Location: Arkansas
Top

Postby Sam I am » Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:43 am

I saw that margarine story before, and, if I remember, it was put out by the American Dairy Assoc. or some such organization to promote butter. I think it was proven to be a load of BS, which, I guess is another dairy product since it comes from cattle! :)
User avatar
Sam I am
500 Club
 
Posts: 770
Images: 106
Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:19 pm
Location: Central PA
Top

Postby Geron » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:15 am

Sam I am wrote:I saw that margarine story before, and, if I remember, it was put out by the American Dairy Assoc. or some such organization to promote butter. I think it was proven to be a load of BS, which, I guess is another dairy product since it comes from cattle! :)


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
If it's not broken, you're not trying hard enough.
User avatar
Geron
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1522
Images: 173
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:23 am
Location: Georgia, Cherrylog
Top

Postby Mary K » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:25 am

raprap wrote:It is really a question of saturated fats vs. unsaturated fats. Margarine is a product of vegetable oils where butter comes from animal oils. Animal oils and fats tend to contain less unsaturated carbon carbon bonds than vegetable oils--as a result they tend to have higher melting points than vegetable oils of a similar molecular weight.

As for health--because of a higher concentration of unsaturated fats vegetable oils tend to be less likely to be converted to cholesterol, consequently one would expect that margarines are healthier--but IMO they don't taste as good. For instance fried potatoes are always tastier when fried in lard.

BTW a good substitute for margarine (and lard and butter in general) is vegetable oils (canola and olive oils are my favorites) which spread on toast and jelly and pop corn just fine.

As for the plastic threat--plastic is just another polymerized carbon, just like most biological compounds-just (in general) simpler. As for other examples the difference between cellulose (cotton and wood) and polycarbohydrates is the orientation of a single bond in the glucose chains. Termites are able to convert cellulose to carbohydrates because of an enzyme produced by a symbiotic bug that lives in their gut.

Rap


Rap, ...um...er.... dem is mighty big words...:oops: I must say your Avatar does NOT do you justice.

Mk
Mary K

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. Bilbo Baggins
User avatar
Mary K
6000 Club
6000 Club
 
Posts: 6425
Images: 44
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:07 pm
Location: Florida, Pensacola
Top

Postby Ken A Hood » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:28 am

And water is just an "O" molecule off from drinking Hydrogen......
Disclaimer: I in no way resemble the avatar shown. Furthermore, I in no way have any affiliation to the Trailer Park Boys and more specifically Bubbles!
User avatar
Ken A Hood
500 Club
 
Posts: 841
Images: 42
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:15 pm
Location: ON CANADA
Top

Postby sdtripper2 » Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:57 am

Ok... now that we have had our fun
with this lets let snopes.com tell the
rest of the story.
Shall weImage ......Image

I searched snopes on these infamous words:
"Margarine is but one molecule from being PLASTIC"

Results follow:

Boiled down story quote from article in Snopes:

"Although a great deal of the information given in the e-mail is valid,
one bit of intelligence is nothing more than hyperbole tossed in by the
author in an effort to make his point more strongly. The claim that some
comestible is but a "single molecule away" from being a decidedly inedible
(or even toxic) substance has been applied to a variety of processed
foods."


Full Story @ Snopes:
http://tinyurl.com/5fu52

I guess Tupperware is safe
and some emails sent around
are maybe a little over da top ~
"A man who is good enough to shed his blood for his country
is good enough to be given a square deal afterwards." -------Theodore Roosevelt

Steve
User avatar
sdtripper2
Search Garoux
 
Posts: 2162
Images: 168
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:32 am
Location: California, ... San Diego
Top


Return to Off Topic

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest