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Postby Loader » Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:36 pm

caseydog wrote: I can see it now, the starting line-up of the local high-school football team averages 6-foot-four tall, and 295 pounds in the year 2017. Better living through chemistry, I guess.

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I think that is out there now! I'm sure you saw the local DFW news, where high school students are going to/could be tested.

http://www.star-telegram.com/highschool ... 86329.html

UIL athletic director Dr. Charles Breithaupt says he is confident Texas' new steroids testing policy will be up and running sometime during the 2007 football season.

"I think we can get this thing rolled out by that time," Breithaupt said Monday at a news conference during the Texas High School Coaches Association Convention and Coaching School in Fort Worth. "Obviously, there are those who want us to roll this out tomorrow, but we think we need to be cautious to make sure we've got everything in line."

The UIL received 14 bids from drug testing companies recently and a committee is sifting through the paperwork trying to find a suitable organization to take on what Breithaupt has been told is "the largest athletic drug test in the world."

"We want a bona fide testing program," Breithaupt said. "... We want to work with the best testing company."

How it works

Penalties: Athletes who test positive for steroids will be suspended for at least 30 days for first offenses, at least a year for second offenses and for the rest of their high school careers for third offenses. First- or second-time offenders will have to submit clean samples before they can resume play.

Students won't pay: Students won't be expected to pay for any part of the program, Breithaupt said, despite previous reports that students who tested positive would have to pay for a second test to be eligible to play again.

Funding: The Texas Education Agency puts up $3 million a year for two years to implement the policy, but the UIL must find a way to fund the program after that, Breithaupt said.

How many tests: The UIL estimates about 23,000 of the 730,000 student-athletes in 1,400 Texas high schools will be tested during a nine-month school year.

The next step: The UIL is focused on educating schools, coaches, parents and athletes on what the policy will entail. All parties involved are being furnished a list of banned substances, which also can be found on the UIL Web site, www.uil.utexas.edu.

Supplements: The program targets only anabolic steroids, but Breithaupt warned that over-the-counter supplements, such as creatine, might contain chemicals that will result in a positive test.

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Postby caseydog » Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:44 pm

Elumia wrote:CD if you read my post it already has! Athletes are gettting eyes surgery on perfectly good vision in order to see better, to what end - IMPROVE PERFORMANCE!!!!

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Any doctor that performs surgery on perfectly good eyes is acting unethically, IMO. Now, having lasic to correct vision is fine, as I see it (pun intended).

I guess I was asking more that telling -- Where should we draw the line?

To me, when you take medicine to cure a desease or condition, it is different than taking drugs to make your body bigger and stronger. How many legitimate medical doctors would consider prescribing steroids to improve athletic performance a legitimate use of drugs? I can't imagine any legitimate doctor approving of that.

Most doctors would not approve of the missuse of overuse of pain killers for athletes with cronic injuries, like bad knees, either. There is a difference between using pain killers for an acute condition, but if the condition become cronic, it may be time to stop playing before damage is permanent.

As BB approaced this milestone, I was mixed in my opinion. Then I read an article that put it into perspective. He knowingly took performance enhancing drugs in order to compete with guys like Sosa and McGwire. His muscle mass whent up too fast and too far to happen just through nutrition and workouts. Even his head grew in size. His home-run hitting doubled.

The big deal here is, what about kids wanting to be pro atheletes. What are THEY willing to do to make the cut? And what do we say to the guys who perform well off of talent and hard work, who get beat out over and over by the guys who take the doping road? Hard work is for losers?

I'm surely not qualified to say what's right and wrong, but we all need to ask ourselves about it from time to time.
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Postby cguardsman » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:27 pm

I am selling one of my Barry Bonds rookie cards to the highest
bidder that I bought when I was in Jr. High School. I for one do
not believe that Barry took steroids at any point in his career
and believe he will be in the Hall of Fame someday. Attached is
a copy of the card.




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Postby robfisher » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:08 pm

The Babe used PEDs all the time. He needed the booze to "relax." Too uptight to hit wiithout a few drinks...during games.
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Postby ob1canola » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:09 pm

Well It's sadly gotton to the point that if you don't use them you can't compete.It's one of those things that if you are caught we never knew
you were on them..But we will look the other way as long as you don't get caught. I think they should still hold roger maris's record as an "old"
world record and start a post steroid catagory
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