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Re: pointing fingures

Postby S. Heisley » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:35 pm

Woodbutcher wrote:

Sharon, you would not really need to much backing from the established politicians. For this to work it would need to be a movement like the TEA party did. Basically a grass roots effort by the citizens of this country. Wouldn't you feel better voting for someone that could not really benefit themselves by being elected? If all they got was a pay check and employment for 4-6 years you weed out a huge number of egomaniacs that are trying to build themselves a kingdom of power. I know it's a dream that will never happen but the way we are doing it now is a huge Failure.


To all of the above: :yes:

But, the logistics of that may still be difficult. For instance, IMO, these people who take positions in the Grass Roots party would probably need some sort of guarantee that their job would still be there when they returned, sort of like being in the National Guard. To make that possible, existing politicians might have to be willing to help get legislation passed. Also, some of these new party people might be "convinced" by "gifts" to family members, etc, or some people who run for this office might be plants, "seeded" to worm their way into the new party, if you get my drift. While there would be problems like the above to solve, it certainly sounds like a good idea to try.
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Re: pointing fingures

Postby Gage » Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:50 am

slowcowboy wrote:............need the dough for a very pricy ring.
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Why do you need a pricy ring? Get what you need, not what you want. Buy the pricy ring later when you have the money and not the bills. Oh, and by the way. You might want to call your creditors and talk to them. Maybe you can get your payments reduced or even deferred. :thinking:
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Re: pointing fingures

Postby satch » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:38 am

jeffmutch wrote:
Perhaps you could enlighten me...

I'll just say this, where I work, if the average taxpayer seen how there money was spent, there would be a revolution.
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Re: pointing fingures

Postby campmaster-k » Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:40 pm

I want to chime in. I try to keep my posts on this forum fun and light, its just my thing.

There are ( seems to me) alot more negative posts around here as of late. Post about the economy and jobs and stuff.

I am here to tell you that the American dream is alive and well. My business took a big hit in the downturn, but I understand that business cycles as does life.

When things change in life it is important to change and adapt. We changed our entire business model to make it work. It was not easy. And now I make less money than I did before but it is getting better.

We live in a county that supports free will and hard work. Anyone can make it in America. We are not caste into a set position in life here. I have been poor and I have made alot of money at different times. I have traveled all over this world and I would never consider living any place but here. If I had to start from scratch tomorrow I could do it, in America. Try that in Russia or India or China or anyplace else.

I like it here in America, My father and his friends and many of my friends and other family members fought hard to make it so we could continue to thrive here. I for one have chosen to not let them down.

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Re: pointing fingures

Postby Gage » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:18 pm

Well put Kirk........... :thumbsup:
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Re: pointing fingures

Postby droid_ca » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:42 pm

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Re: pointing fingures

Postby S. Heisley » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:07 pm

campmaster-k wrote:I want to chime in. I try to keep my posts on this forum fun and light, its just my thing.

There are ( seems to me) alot more negative posts around here as of late. Post about the economy and jobs and stuff.

I am here to tell you that the American dream is alive and well. My business took a big hit in the downturn, but I understand that business cycles as does life.

When things change in life it is important to change and adapt. We changed our entire business model to make it work. It was not easy. And now I make less money than I did before but it is getting better.

We live in a county that supports free will and hard work. Anyone can make it in America. We are not caste into a set position in life here. I have been poor and I have made alot of money at different times. I have traveled all over this world and I would never consider living any place but here. If I had to start from scratch tomorrow I could do it, in America. Try that in Russia or India or China or anyplace else.

I like it here in America, My father and his friends and many of my friends and other family members fought hard to make it so we could continue to thrive here. I for one have chosen to not let them down.

Your life is a continuous series of choices that put you in the position you are in. It just like a plane crash - its always a series of events that lead to the crash almost never a single event. I take full responsibility for my place in this life. Rich or poor its my choice.


I agree, Kirk; however, we must always be on our guard to keep it that way as there are groups out there in the world and even in the US who are working to try to change all that, for their own personal benefit. Of course, if we can make things better, then, we should attempt to do that as well. Still, this is one of the the best places on earth in which to live and I count my blessings that I was born here. :yes:
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Re: pointing fingures

Postby nevadatear » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:43 pm

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Re: pointing fingures

Postby sagebrush » Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:52 pm

Gage wrote:Well put Kirk........... :thumbsup:



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Re: pointing fingures

Postby LDK » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:15 pm

campmaster-k wrote:I want to chime in. I try to keep my posts on this forum fun and light, its just my thing.

There are ( seems to me) alot more negative posts around here as of late. Post about the economy and jobs and stuff.

I am here to tell you that the American dream is alive and well. My business took a big hit in the downturn, but I understand that business cycles as does life.

When things change in life it is important to change and adapt. We changed our entire business model to make it work. It was not easy. And now I make less money than I did before but it is getting better.

We live in a county that supports free will and hard work. Anyone can make it in America. We are not caste into a set position in life here. I have been poor and I have made alot of money at different times. I have traveled all over this world and I would never consider living any place but here. If I had to start from scratch tomorrow I could do it, in America. Try that in Russia or India or China or anyplace else.

I like it here in America, My father and his friends and many of my friends and other family members fought hard to make it so we could continue to thrive here. I for one have chosen to not let them down.

Your life is a continuous series of choices that put you in the position you are in. It just like a plane crash - its always a series of events that lead to the crash almost never a single event. I take full responsibility for my place in this life. Rich or poor its my choice.


Well said Kirk! :thumbsup: Now lets talk about zombie hunting. :lol:
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Re: pointing fingures

Postby pete42 » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:42 pm

darn darn darn I have to agree with Gage, never thought I would but on this subject he's right.


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Re: pointing fingures

Postby rowerwet » Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:44 pm

Sadly our country is already near the unemployment rate we were at in the "great" depression, the big difference is back then you were out of work, maybe homeless, and hungry. today you get 99 weeks of unemployment, all kinds of mortgage refinance programs, and food stamps. the stage for this was all set back when we let "progressives" monkey with the constitution and make all the offices in congress elected by democracy (latin for mob rule), since then we have had "leaders" who bought votes from the public treasury, rather than looked after the treasury and interests of the sovereign states.
If you read the constitution of the US you find that the Senators are to be appointed by the state governments, their whole job is to protect the states from democracy, or the people voting themselves what ever they want from the national treasury in the House.
The office of the President was also not ever meant to be a popularity contest, the state legislatures were also supposed to be much more involved than they have been since the 1820's.
Since those changes to the constitution were made we've had the foxes guarding the hen house, it worked since WWII since the rest of the world was bombed back to the stone age and took time to catch us again. Since we don't have the Republic our founders gave us anymore, and our debt now equals the national gross domestic product, our credit rating is about to go over it's own cliff. when we can't borrow money at 1% interest nationally anymore, our financial situation will go into hyper inflation, and we will end up at the ultimate end of every democracy historically, Dictatorship :frightened:
It really stinks, but the facts are the facts, just look at every other country on earth right now, many are already falling off the same kind of cliff (not the made up one being shouted about in DC right now) or have already gone over it and seen their money become as valuable as monopoly money. the really scary part is all those countries propping up each other with loans that they can never pay back, while the countries doing the lending don't have much of a leg to stand on either. Of course it explains how we end up with a one world government....
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Re: pointing fingures

Postby stumphugger » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:16 pm

rowerwet wrote:Sadly our country is already near the unemployment rate we were at in the "great" depression, the big difference is back then you were out of work, maybe homeless, and hungry. today you get 99 weeks of unemployment, all kinds of mortgage refinance programs, and food stamps. the stage for this was all set back when we let "progressives" monkey with the constitution and make all the offices in congress elected by democracy (latin for mob rule), since then we have had "leaders" who bought votes from the public treasury, rather than looked after the treasury and interests of the sovereign states.
If you read the constitution of the US you find that the Senators are to be appointed by the state governments, their whole job is to protect the states from democracy, or the people voting themselves what ever they want from the national treasury in the House.
The office of the President was also not ever meant to be a popularity contest, the state legislatures were also supposed to be much more involved than they have been since the 1820's.
Since those changes to the constitution were made we've had the foxes guarding the hen house, it worked since WWII since the rest of the world was bombed back to the stone age and took time to catch us again. Since we don't have the Republic our founders gave us anymore, and our debt now equals the national gross domestic product, our credit rating is about to go over it's own cliff. when we can't borrow money at 1% interest nationally anymore, our financial situation will go into hyper inflation, and we will end up at the ultimate end of every democracy historically, Dictatorship :frightened:
It really stinks, but the facts are the facts, just look at every other country on earth right now, many are already falling off the same kind of cliff (not the made up one being shouted about in DC right now) or have already gone over it and seen their money become as valuable as monopoly money. the really scary part is all those countries propping up each other with loans that they can never pay back, while the countries doing the lending don't have much of a leg to stand on either. Of course it explains how we end up with a one world government....



Yes, it was much better in the 1930s when people starved to death and kids suffered from malnutrition than now when we have resources to prevent that.

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Re: pointing fingures

Postby rowerwet » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:06 pm

borrowing 40% or better of every dollar spent to provide "free lunch" isn't going to last much longer, and then the results will make the the worst of the "great" depression look not so bad... but, nobody wants to hear "the Emperor has no clothes" anymore... when the average unemployed household takes in over $100 a week more than the average employed household we have a serious problem.
It really is the worst for people like slow who are still trying to make it the honest way, compared the layabouts in my neighborhood who are all fat, pierced and tatooed all over, have the latest smart phones, and can afford to waddle up to the minimart around the corner all day and night to get their smokes, beer, and overpriced food with an EBT card. It is exactly what is wrong with the country. Bread and circuses (welfare) were a big reason the Roman empire died.
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Re: pointing fingures

Postby CARS » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:37 pm

stumphugger wrote:
rowerwet wrote:Sadly our country is already near the unemployment rate we were at in the "great" depression, the big difference is back then you were out of work, maybe homeless, and hungry. today you get 99 weeks of unemployment, all kinds of mortgage refinance programs, and food stamps. the stage for this was all set back when we let "progressives" monkey with the constitution and make all the offices in congress elected by democracy (latin for mob rule), since then we have had "leaders" who bought votes from the public treasury, rather than looked after the treasury and interests of the sovereign states.
If you read the constitution of the US you find that the Senators are to be appointed by the state governments, their whole job is to protect the states from democracy, or the people voting themselves what ever they want from the national treasury in the House.
The office of the President was also not ever meant to be a popularity contest, the state legislatures were also supposed to be much more involved than they have been since the 1820's.
Since those changes to the constitution were made we've had the foxes guarding the hen house, it worked since WWII since the rest of the world was bombed back to the stone age and took time to catch us again. Since we don't have the Republic our founders gave us anymore, and our debt now equals the national gross domestic product, our credit rating is about to go over it's own cliff. when we can't borrow money at 1% interest nationally anymore, our financial situation will go into hyper inflation, and we will end up at the ultimate end of every democracy historically, Dictatorship :frightened:
It really stinks, but the facts are the facts, just look at every other country on earth right now, many are already falling off the same kind of cliff (not the made up one being shouted about in DC right now) or have already gone over it and seen their money become as valuable as monopoly money. the really scary part is all those countries propping up each other with loans that they can never pay back, while the countries doing the lending don't have much of a leg to stand on either. Of course it explains how we end up with a one world government....



Yes, it was much better in the 1930s when people starved to death and kids suffered from malnutrition than now when we have resources to prevent that.

I think not.


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I can already understand why Slow is so distraught. He lives too far away from any jobs. While I don't live in the middle of a pasture, any "gainful" employment around here is going to require a long commute or moving. It's frustrating to see great paying jobs out there but taking one would require many extra hours away from the family and my hobby farm (which I have downsized to just the garden space and creatures that feed us. No "eye candy" exotic birds anymore).

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