GAS...in your area again!!!

[Nitetimes]

And the rest of the US wants you to keep them permanently! LOL

Well they can certainly have them, I want nothing to do with either of them!!!

[Claw]

Gas jumped to $3.67/gal today from $3.54-$3.59. I caught a place at $3.54 before they adjusted up. I pretty much got my act together financially but a lot of my co-wokers have been commenting how they have stopped going anywhere to help control this increased expense.

$4 will be a psychological hurdle for me but the reality is a $1/gal increase over the past months still is only a $50/month increase for me that can be absorbed by reductions elsewhere mainly in my food budget.

Where are others finding the extra money for fuel?

[SmokeyBob]

The use of the siphoning hose and locking gas caps is going to make a comeback.

The price of gas got me thinking of the good old days. Back in the 60's duing my high school days you would hear people talking about using the Oklahoma Credit Card to get gas. Before you ask I have no idea what Oklahoma had to do with it. That meant using a siphoning hose to steal gas from the local school buses. And this was when you could buy gas for 10 cents a gallon. But kids didn't always have a lot of money and kids being kids would sometimes do dumb things. I remember once buying a gallon of gas at a local service station for a dime. That's all the three of us could come up with. But that was good for several hours of driving around town doing absolutely nothing.
Back then it didn't take a lot for entertainment.

Today it's different. The price of gas is going to cause some people to do things they wouldn't normally do when they can't afford gas just to go to work to feed their families. Not to long ago I heard on the news where someone was stealing thousands of gallons of gas from the underground storage tanks of service stations. Never heard if they were caught. I wonder where all that gas went? Maybe into the holding tanks of another service station at a cut rate price. Bet the station still sold the gas at the high price.

And as a parting thought, I wonder what that gas in your tank is worth?

[caseydog]

Well apparently around here it's now a race to can hit the highest mark first. We have now crossed the $3.50 mark and still climbing. I have seen a few that are already $3.55+. I really wish Hillary and Obama would get the hell out of this state and soon!!!

Oh, it's their fault. It has nothing to do with the Republicans in the White House now the ones from the oil industry.

Glad you and Pete straightened that out for me.

I can't help but wonder how much longer people will continue to vote against their own best interests to support some ideological myth, like "liberals" will take away our guns.

No matter who is in the White House, gas prices are going to go up. It is a reality due to global supply and demand. But, NOT having two oilmen in the White House can't hurt.

BTW, add to your gasoline bill the cost of the war in Iraq to taxpayers, and the four "enduring" military bases and the world's largest so called "embassy" in Baghdad (the size of the Vatican) that we are paying for. The war and all it's coasts are to give US and it's allies oil industries military control over Middle East oil.

As of today, each of us has spent $1,721 per person on this war for oil.

Meanwhile, Osama bin Hidin' is still alive and well in Pakistan -- one of our "allies."

But, all the Republicans have to do is spread some looney rumor that Obama wants to take everyone's guns away, and they will win another close election, as just enough people buy the lie and once again give the multinational corporations control of the country. And they will continue to pursue policies that "redistribute wealth" from our pockets to theirs.

Rant off.

[caseydog]

Gas jumped to $3.67/gal today from $3.54-$3.59. I caught a place at $3.54 before they adjusted up. I pretty much got my act together financially but a lot of my co-wokers have been commenting how they have stopped going anywhere to help control this increased expense.

$4 will be a psychological hurdle for me but the reality is a $1/gal increase over the past months still is only a $50/month increase for me that can be absorbed by reductions elsewhere mainly in my food budget.

Where are others finding the extra money for fuel?

I'm like you in that the extra money spent on gas sucks, but does not change my life too much.

Since I now work from my home office most of the time, my driving miles are down somewhat. I have some long trips now that I didn't but I'm paid 45-cents per mile for those, so it works out fine.

One big problem in the economy is that people are spending more on gasoline, and less on "stuff." Being a "consumer-based" economy, the US can't handle people spending less on "stuff."

Based on real supply and demand, oil prices are not really out of line. But, oil prices were kept artificially low for a long time by OPEC, and now they are reaping the rewards of that strategy from an oil-dependent world. All that "cheap oil" made it unprofitable to look for new sources of energy, or develop new kinds of energy technologies.

The real effects of that on us is that, instead of gasoline prices slowly raising to where they are today, they are jumping at rates we can't handle.

Add to that the fact that most Americans are not gaining ground in real income, and something has to give.

I really feel bad for truckers and construction workers, who use a lot of gas and diesel to make a living, and for people who commute to low wage jobs in places like Dallas, where mass transit is weak.

I don't feel sorry for the hundreds of thousands of Texans who refuse to give up their full-sized SUVs, yet bitch and moan about fuel prices. They made their beds, and now that can sleep in them.

CD

[Elumia]

CD
You're getting screwed on your mileage:

Beginning Jan. 1, 2008, the standard mileage rates for the use of a car (including vans, pickups or panel trucks) will be:

50.5 cents per mile for business miles driven;
19 cents per mile driven for medical or moving purposes; and
14 cents per mile driven in service of charitable organizations

The new rate for business miles compares to a rate of 48.5 cents per mile for 2007. The new rate for medical and moving purposes compares to 20 cents in 2007. The rate for miles driven in service of charitable organizations has remained the same.

I suspect that rate may even go up. It did for a while, I think in 2006 up to the 48.5 that became law in 2007. I think your employer owes you a check because he surely claimed those rates to the IRS. Think about it, if you drive a 100 miles for your work you are owed $50.50! I may need to go on the road more! (my car is paid for)

Problem with those "big SUV's" is that in a lot of instances, they don't cost much more than a fuel efficient vehicle. I heard on the radio today that you could buy a brand new full size pick-up for around 15K. Same dealer was offering a new full size SUV for 17K. Most of us mericans are far to fat to ride in a little hatchback..... downside of high priced fuel is that we will cut our food budget to pay for gas, when you cut the food budget, you get more cheap poor quality (read fast) food that makes you fatter.

It will be interseting to see what happens when the speculation bubble bursts, and who will be left holding the bag. Didn't Brazil just annouce a huge oil discovery that was listed to be the 3rd largest know reserve? According to some web sites I've seen, something like most of the known oil reserves are in the middle east. I suspect there is a whole bunch more that we just haven't found. High prices will get the prospectors looking harder (and deeper in the ocean)

Ok I'm done with my cynicism for now....

Mark

[WarPony]

Monday morning............ $3.93/gal.
Today, same station........$3.62/gal.

It's got a long way to go but at least it's finally going in the right direction!!

Jeff

[WarPony]

$3.19 at BP and Shell..................

Jeff

[Miriam C.]

$3.19 at BP and Shell..................

Jeff

Now that is just interesting. Our tax is 17 cents less than Kansas's and we are paying $3.29 as of this evening. Sounds like a gouging to me. Price of oil has gone down about $50 since July and the price of fuel certainly hasn't kept up with it.

[Nitetimes]

$3.19 at BP and Shell..................

Jeff

Now that is just interesting. Our tax is 17 cents less than Kansas's and we are paying $3.29 as of this evening. Sounds like a gouging to me. Price of oil has gone down about $50 since July and the price of fuel certainly hasn't kept up with it.

Don't complain too loud....ours is still $3.55 - $3.69 around here. And the last change was up!!!

[asianflava]

$3.19 at BP and Shell..................

Jeff

I wish gas was that cheap here. I just got gas last night, with my "shoppers card" at Kroger (called King Sooper's here) it was $3.48. Normal price without a card would have been $3.58.

[zelix]

It's $3.95/gal here....that's for the cheep grade.

[caseydog]

Hey

Nitetimes writes: "I really wish Hillary and Obama would get the hell out of this state and soon!!! "

And the rest of the US wants you to keep them permanently! LOL


Pete Wilson

P.S. Just remember, Hillary wanted to take our guns a few years ago, now she's a sportsman's advocate, just another say anything to get a vote Clinton (need we mention Bill).

Well, you guys can celebrate now that the Dems have decided to let the moratorium end on offshore drilling. It was announced today, the Dems gave in to the Republicans, yet again.

Don't celebrate too long, though, because the oil companies aren't going to drill here any time soon. It is estimated that there is 40 Billion barrels of oil where they already COULD drill, and only 18 Billion barrels in the off limits areas. They didn't drill for the 40 Billion barrels, so why drill for the 18 Billion. Of course, there is always the possibility that President Palin (after McCain dies) will pay the big oil companies to drill for oil wherever they want (if praying for them to do it doesn't work).

Reality 101: It is cheaper for Exxon/Mobil to get oil from the Middle East, especially with American taxpayers funding the wars for that oil. They don't give a rat's butt about you and I, and what we pay for gasoline. But if it makes you FEEL better to know that they can drill anywhere they want, now, then who am I to pee on your Wheaties.

As for me, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Drill Here, Drill Now to actually work. I'll need that breath to laugh my arse off when it doesn't. And, it won't. You heard it here first.

CD

[starleen2]

Snip....Reality 101: It is cheaper for Exxon/Mobil to get oil from the Middle East, especially with American taxpayers funding the wars for that oil....Snip....
CD

Exactly.. I say we suck them dry for every last drop before we start using our reserves. Yes, it may cost us some now, but we get to stick it to them in the end! (or the end, which ever you prefer)

[pete.wilson]

Hey

Starleen writes: "Exactly.. I say we suck them dry for every last drop before we start using our reserves. Yes, it may cost us some now, but we get to stick it to them in the end! (or the end, which ever you prefer)"

I like her way of thinking, we might as well (no pun intended) start drilling now and then when we need them, have at it.

As for republicans vs democrats, it makes no difference. One says you should be accountable for your own destiny and it's about making money. The other party is about special interests, forget about the majority and lets socialize everything. I say string them all up and go back to our constitution and use some GOD given common sense. Add a good dose of real patriotism and do what best for Americans (and I mean less for Corporate America).

Pete Wilson