GAS...in your area again!!!

[Miriam C.]

Uh, CD it is "tinkle in your Cheerio's." I believe.........

Did you notice Oil dropped like a rock while the speculators were scrambling to make sure we covered their bad bets........ Let the games begin. Oil up and gas here is $3.23 a gallon.

[Larwyn]

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I don't feel sorry for the hundreds of thousands of Texans who refuse to give up their full-sized SUVs, yet bitch and moan about fuel prices. They made their beds, and now that can sleep in them.

CD

Well, I use my full size suv to haul my full size tools and full size materials to my full size job site. Your opinion of my choice in vehicles matters little to me, not everybody can make do with a Prius.

[MidTNJasonF]

Best price I can find if you can find it is $3.88. Most places are at $3.99 if they have gas. I paid $4.29 Friday at the only station that still had gas in my area. Over the course of the weekend some stations got deliveries and sold back out within hours.

They expect the gas"shortage" to be over by the end of this week. I say "shortage" since it was entirely fear driven gas hoarding that caused all the stations to run out of gas.

[starleen2]

Now my rant: You can complain, complain, and complain all you want. However, the alternative is up to you. either pay the price or make your own - since I don't relish the thought of having to deal with the toxic chemicals and complicated "cracking" processes involved in distilling Gasoline, then I prefer to buy it already made like everyone else. I own two Jeeps and I did not buy them for gas mileage. I bought them because I could afford them and considered the cost of fuel, tires, service and such. No they are not practical for fuel economy – and if and when the price of fuel exceeds the cost of converting them to an alternative fuel source, then I will convert them. I used to work in the Water utility industry and would get complaints about water bills, water quality, and service. I would always remind the customers that they well within their rights to complain but they could also drill their own well and produce their own water any way liked like (within regulations of course) and compete with us and perhaps put us out of business. Complain about the prices and yet don’t want to spend money on the alternative. Everyone complains about Windows Vista, XP and the like, well I say the same thing – Invent something better, stick your name on it and reap the profits. My tanks hold about 18 gallons each – if gas goes up another dollar a gallon, then it’s another 18 dollars to me – I can afford it or else make my own – which I’m not about to do. We had the oil companies where we wanted them when gas was setting records and we drive as much – the price of oil fell to 100 dollars a barrel. To sum it up – don’t like the price of gas, make your own, don’t like the price of a gallon of milk, get a cow, grow your wheat and make your own bread - OR – you can buy it already made! – Hummmm, put it that way it kind of makes sense. Thats for free

[zelix]

Now my rant: You can complain, complain, and complain all you want. However, the alternative is up to you. either pay the price or make your own - since I don't relish the thought of having to deal with the toxic chemicals and complicated "cracking" processes involved in distilling Gasoline, then I prefer to buy it already made like everyone else. I own two Jeeps and I did not buy them for gas mileage. I bought them because I could afford them and considered the cost of fuel, tires, service and such. No they are not practical for fuel economy – and if and when the price of fuel exceeds the cost of converting them to an alternative fuel source, then I will convert them. I used to work in the Water utility industry and would get complaints about water bills, water quality, and service. I would always remind the customers that they well within their rights to complain but they could also drill their own well and produce their own water any way liked like (within regulations of course) and compete with us and perhaps put us out of business. Complain about the prices and yet don’t want to spend money on the alternative. Everyone complains about Windows Vista, XP and the like, well I say the same thing – Invent something better, stick your name on it and reap the profits. My tanks hold about 18 gallons each – if gas goes up another dollar a gallon, then it’s another 18 dollars to me – I can afford it or else make my own – which I’m not about to do. We had the oil companies where we wanted them when gas was setting records and we drive as much – the price of oil fell to 100 dollars a barrel. To sum it up – don’t like the price of gas, make your own, don’t like the price of a gallon of milk, get a cow, grow your wheat and make your own bread - OR – you can buy it already made! – Hummmm, put it that way it kind of makes sense. Thats for free

I would but I'm waiting for someone that is really pissT like you to jump out and lead the pack. When you get the system down post the results, ok?




Joking aside...I've looked into the home made alcohol. It kinda dangerous if you dont know what your doing and you can only make so much legally that it's not worth it.



I'm afraid I'd drink it all though.

[caseydog]

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I don't feel sorry for the hundreds of thousands of Texans who refuse to give up their full-sized SUVs, yet bitch and moan about fuel prices. They made their beds, and now that can sleep in them.

CD

Well, I use my full size suv to haul my full size tools and full size materials to my full size job site. Your opinion of my choice in vehicles matters little to me, not everybody can make do with a Prius.

You obviously need a large vehicle. But when I was commuting everyday to an office job, I was surrounded by big SUVs and Super-Duty pickups driven by office workers driving to and from a job, alone in their gas guzzlers. They are the ones I have no sympathy for.

BTW, in Europe, they sell a wide variety of comercial vans as large, and larger than your full-sized SUV, that manage 25 MPG in city traffic. The Dodge Sprinter (made by Daimler-Benz) is one of them.

Wouldn't you like to have a work vehicle that could haul all your stuff and get 10 MPG better than what you probably get now? Ford and GM make them in Europe, too, so why not here?

Wow, better fuel economy, and new jobs for American workers.

CD

[caseydog]

Now my rant: You can complain, complain, and complain all you want. However, the alternative is up to you. either pay the price or make your own - since I don't relish the thought of having to deal with the toxic chemicals and complicated "cracking" processes involved in distilling Gasoline, then I prefer to buy it already made like everyone else. I own two Jeeps and I did not buy them for gas mileage. I bought them because I could afford them and considered the cost of fuel, tires, service and such. No they are not practical for fuel economy – and if and when the price of fuel exceeds the cost of converting them to an alternative fuel source, then I will convert them. I used to work in the Water utility industry and would get complaints about water bills, water quality, and service. I would always remind the customers that they well within their rights to complain but they could also drill their own well and produce their own water any way liked like (within regulations of course) and compete with us and perhaps put us out of business. Complain about the prices and yet don’t want to spend money on the alternative. Everyone complains about Windows Vista, XP and the like, well I say the same thing – Invent something better, stick your name on it and reap the profits. My tanks hold about 18 gallons each – if gas goes up another dollar a gallon, then it’s another 18 dollars to me – I can afford it or else make my own – which I’m not about to do. We had the oil companies where we wanted them when gas was setting records and we drive as much – the price of oil fell to 100 dollars a barrel. To sum it up – don’t like the price of gas, make your own, don’t like the price of a gallon of milk, get a cow, grow your wheat and make your own bread - OR – you can buy it already made! – Hummmm, put it that way it kind of makes sense. Thats for free

I would but I'm waiting for someone that is really pissT like you to jump out and lead the pack. When you get the system down post the results, ok?




Joking aside...I've looked into the home made alcohol. It kinda dangerous if you dont know what your doing and you can only make so much legally that it's not worth it.



I'm afraid I'd drink it all though.

Here is another option for people who don't want to pay so much for gas -- use less of it.

In the "free market" economy, prices go up when demand goes up in relation to supply. It goes down when demand goes down, relative to supply.

The supply of oil is determined first by the Earth, and it holds a finite amount. We've already sucked up the easiest oil to get to. In the future, it will be harder (and more expensive) to get oil out of the Earth. Eventually, it will be impossible to get any more oil out of the Earth.

Another reality is that big oil companies are expected to maximize profits. At this point in time, exploring for oil in US territories and offshore is risky, compared to exploring in the Middle East, where oil is relatively easy to get to, and we know for sure there are huge reserves of oil -- for now.

Someday, oil companies will NEED to drill in new places, but right now, they are not likely to risk their ever growing quarterly profits now, to find oil for the future. The stock market does not reward companies for their long-term strategies (not anymore). The market rewards companies that show good results in the CURRENT calendar quarter.

Keep in mind, also, that all those billions of barrels offshore are "estimated" reserves. Nobody will know for sure how much is out there until five to ten years after the drilling begins. That's another flaw with "Drill Here, Drill Now" policies.

Basically, the only 100-percent sure-fire way to cut your own personal gasoline bills right now, is to use less gasoline. It is also the best option we have as a nation for keeping gasoline prices from going higher.

[caseydog]

Did you notice Oil dropped like a rock while the speculators were scrambling to make sure we covered their bad bets........ Let the games begin. Oil up and gas here is $3.23 a gallon.

I don't know about dropping like a rock (gasoline still isn't cheap) but prices did go down as demand did not meet expectations. We do have some control over prices, if we choose to.

CD

[Arne]

My second car is a scooter... gets 50 mpg, and only because I wanted something that was big/fast enough to manage highway speeds. Other scoots with smaller engines get 70-80 mpg. With taxes and insurance, it does not really pay to own it... I got it as a 'toy' in 2002.. now, since I have it, it is my 'second driver' used for short errands, trips to the gym, etc.....

Economically, it still isn't worth the 300 I pay for insurance and taxes, but it does save miles on my van, which I need to tow my t/d.

I do make a conscience effort to consolidate trips. My going to the gym usually includes a stop at the library and grocery store... and my gas cost per month still startles me when I get my m/c bill..

[CaptainKram]

I'm surprised no one here is into biodeisel It's a simple additive process with a little heat. My neighbors friend make his own for ~$1.20 per gallon. He does have to go out and get the fryer oil but that's not that hard...yet.

CK

[zelix]

I'm surprised no one here is into biodeisel It's a simple additive process with a little heat. My neighbors friend make his own for ~$1.20 per gallon. He does have to go out and get the fryer oil but that's not that hard...yet.

CK

Can you burn that in a regular gasoline engine vehicle?

[CaptainKram]

I'm surprised no one here is into biodeisel It's a simple additive process with a little heat. My neighbors friend make his own for ~$1.20 per gallon. He does have to go out and get the fryer oil but that's not that hard...yet.

CK

Can you burn that in a regular gasoline engine vehicle?

Nope, definitely have to make the conversion to a diesel engine. But, if one is serious about savings at the pump, it pays for itself very quickly.

CK

[zelix]

I'm surprised no one here is into biodeisel It's a simple additive process with a little heat. My neighbors friend make his own for ~$1.20 per gallon. He does have to go out and get the fryer oil but that's not that hard...yet.

CK

Can you burn that in a regular gasoline engine vehicle?

Nope, definitely have to make the conversion to a diesel engine. But, if one is serious about savings at the pump, it pays for itself very quickly.

CK

There's your answer then.....

Joking aside I heard that it's easy to make biodeisel. I'm waiting for the tesla free energy engine to hit the market.

[CaptainKram]

Hi Zelix,

Couple of these might interest you then!

http://www.earth4energy.com/?hop=iem2509

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh_-DUKQ4Uw&NR=1

http://www.free-energy.ws/index.html

You're right though, bio-diesel is easy to make. I did a batch in a an old kitchen blender for ~ .50 worth of materials. After filtering for excess water, it ran a small generator for hours. Exhaust smelled like a busy burger joint. I guess that could make for some critter problems.

CK

[WarPony]

Better save the money you're saving making diesel fuel out of fryer grease. You'll need it to fix the damage it will do to your fuel system in time. Filter all you want, the salts and acids from cooking animal parts in the oil won't come out and that's what will eat up the fuel system. Fuel made from soy oil is alright if not mixed to strongly. Soy diesel is good because it's made from brand new oil.

Jeff