camping with dogs?

Things that don't fit anywhere else...

Postby MSG Hall » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:42 am

Feed the barking dogs a little hamberg with a lot of exlax… I know, not the mature way to handle the problem, but I have a bit of a temper and no tolerance for inconsiderate people… better to do something to make them leave than beat there ass and then kill the dog… that would spoil my whole trip….
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Postby emiller » Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:38 am

If dogs wern't a problem this wouldn't even be a topic. Owners always think there dogs are the best dogs in the world. This last gathering last weekend dogs where the main focal point at the gathering and overall the dogs where great. The one that complained the most had two little dogs that barked constantlly. We had one camper that thought her dog could be in the restrooms even though theres a sign posted on the door that says No Dogs. There was a Chihaua with a spike colar that wasn't on a lease that was the most behaved dog I've ever seen. I guess what I'm saying even though the majority of dogs was positive those couple of dogs put a bad taste about dogs in the camp ground.
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Postby asianflava » Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:31 am

emiller wrote: Owners always think there dogs are the best dogs in the world.


Doesn't this apply to parents and their kids also? 8)
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Postby emiller » Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:51 am

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Postby Gaelen » Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:06 am

asianflava wrote:
emiller wrote: Owners always think there dogs are the best dogs in the world.


Doesn't this apply to parents and their kids also? 8)


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yep.
It also applies to people and their choice of music, and people and their choice of transportation...among other things.

I just spent six days in a gigantic state campground--no idea how many acres, but there are 250 electric sites, and 250+ non-electric sites. There were, at any given moment from Wednesday night to Sunday afternoon, over 4000 dogs, all of their people, all of those people's kids/spouses, the general public (from 8 a.m. to around 10 p.m.) and...well, you get the idea. It's like a small city that just happens to take up residence in this state park for six days every fall.

Didn't have a single kid issue--although dog show kids tend to be used to being treated as part of an enormous family, where any adult has parental authority. I am not shy about reminding kids that I'm a grownup and they're not, and if their parents aren't present to be the voice of reason, I will not hesitate to provide that voice.

Did have one 'music' issue...our neighbors, an otherwise wonderful couple, apparently only owned one CD--Reba McIntyre's Greatest Hits. Nice collection of songs, but one night they ran through it repeatedly for three hours. I was only moments away from offering them any choice they wanted from my own CD collection. ;)

What was the most obnoxious issue all weekend?
One group of about fifteen campers brough their bikes (motorcycles). When I first saw them, I thought--oh, cool, they're going to bike along the lake or the wine trails. Noooo. This campground was part of the old Army depot long ago and far away, so there are lots of semi-paved trails that wind through the fields and trees. On the three nice days, this 'group' spent several hours roaring through the fields around the overflow camping area--and one busted out of the brush right in front of me as I was driving the back road down to my own campsite. I appreciate a fine bike as much as the next person, but this was neither the time nor place for that kind of riding. Apparently, they also spent a lot of time at their campsites tuning up the bikes--until the rangers drove through and told them that, just like generators, the song of a roaring motorcycle engine was not contributing to a happy camping experience for the rest of the world. ;)

This was probably the kind of camping situation most folks would consider 'taking the dog thing a little too far.' Thing is, this campground is closed to camping by the non-dog public for this show circuit, and the Finger Lakes Region of the NYS Parks Association is a co-sponsor of the shows. They have made so much $$$ from this event that they've been able to upgrade all of the park's shower houses, the marina, the beach, the concession stand, the park roads, and add an extra 200 improved sites to land that wasn't being used. So the rest of the year, everyone who camps at Sampson State Park benefits from the six days when this park goes to the dogs. We do give back, at least in this area--and help make a better camping experience possible for everyone else for the rest of the year.
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Postby bobhenry » Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:19 am

I think I have the answer spay or neuter all dumb a$$ dog owners lest they breed more dumb a$$ dog owners. :lol:

Sadie our Scottie is a good girl when camping at our little mom and pop campgrounds. Not a lot of people around, However I am reluctant to take her to a busy campgrounds as she has issues with crowds. It is her job to protect us and she has a habit of taking it a bit to serious. She seems to see a good natured slap on the back as a personal attach and will readily perforate the offender even me !

I know this and while I enjoy her company she would stay at home if we are expecting a "busy" ( crowed) weekend.
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Postby b.bodemer » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:45 am

SFC Hall,

Please tell me you are joking with your earlier reply:

"Feed the barking dogs a little hamberg with a lot of exlax… I know, not the mature way to handle the problem, but I have a bit of a temper and no tolerance for inconsiderate people… better to do something to make them leave than beat there ass and then kill the dog… that would spoil my whole trip…".

Wag more, bark less!

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Postby Mary K » Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:38 pm

b.bodemer wrote:SFC Hall,

Please tell me you are joking with your earlier reply:

"Feed the barking dogs a little hamberg with a lot of exlax… I know, not the mature way to handle the problem, but I have a bit of a temper and no tolerance for inconsiderate people… better to do something to make them leave than beat there ass and then kill the dog… that would spoil my whole trip…".

Wag more, bark less!

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I have to agree with Barb. Please tell us you are joking with this comment and in your first post on this thread with the picture. Or are you a Vic Fan?

IMO, I have noticed in some of your other post, you seem to be trying to start arguments and have succeeded in at least one case and the thread was deleted. As it is, this thread is going down the tubes fast also.

Of course, this all could be purely coincidental. :thinking:

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Postby AlaskaJack » Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:03 pm

Ahhh.... gotta love this thread! Most certainly dogs can be a nuisance to others, lol, mine certainly is.... at least to those who don't like their crotch sniffed or their face licked! (I find loose cats that kill everything they find even worse! ... albeit, quieter!) That's exactly why I tend to avoid campgrounds, and other areas that are populated by either people... or their yappy dogs! With each passing year I find myself getting to be more of a hermit..... and enjoying it! :D
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Postby madjack » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:06 pm

SFC Hall wrote:Feed the barking dogs a little hamberg with a lot of exlax… I know, not the mature way to handle the problem, but I have a bit of a temper and no tolerance for inconsiderate people… better to do something to make them leave than beat there ass and then kill the dog… that would spoil my whole trip….


....not really the best way to deal with most of these types of situations...if it looks like the 2legged idiots ar gonna be...idiots, let the Ranger or Host take care of it...that is what they get paid/volunteer for......
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Postby caseydog » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:48 pm

asianflava wrote:
emiller wrote: Owners always think there dogs are the best dogs in the world.


Doesn't this apply to parents and their kids also? 8)


Impossible. The best dog in the world was Casey, and she died. So there are only wannabes, now. :lol:

IMHO, When one goes camping, it is always the right thing to respect the folks around you. It doesn't matter whether it is dogs, loud music, cigar smoking (my vice), or whatever. Even your kids.

Camping isn't like "the privacy of your own home." It's a more communal situation. If Casey would have been a barker or had some other behavioral issues, I would have left her home. She was exceptionally well behaved, so people loved having her around.

Isn't it really a matter of people using good judgement, and thinking about everyone else first, then making a sensible decision whether they should bring their dog to a gathering?

So far, the dogs I've seen at TD gatherings have been well behaved.
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Postby tonyj » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:58 pm

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Some dogs just don't get it--makes us all look bad. Wake me when there's some food.
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Postby caseydog » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:10 pm

madjack wrote:....not really the best way to deal with most of these types of situations...if it looks like the 2legged idiots ar gonna be...idiots, let the Ranger or Host take care of it...that is what they get paid/volunteer for......
madjack 8)


Out of curiosity, are you just a moderator on the forums, or does that position of authority and responsibility befall you at gatherings, as well?

There will be a lot of us at LCGII, and I'm not sure we can be left without supervision for an entire weekend. :lol:

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Postby Kevin A » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:51 pm

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Casey sounds like she was a great dog. My camping buddy (Heidi) passed on Sep. 15 2005. She also loved camping and was exceptionally well behaved.
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Postby Kankujoe » Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:21 am

I know that I will regret posting this... (you think that SFC Hall's comment was severe).

I'll relate a little incident that happened to me a few years back and how it was quickly resolved.

I live out in the country and I enjoy riding my bicycle. Every so often I get chased by a dog or two, no big deal since most dogs are not aggressive & most owners call their dogs back. (It seems that most people in the country don't know what a dog leash or dog fence is). And some people just gather up stray dogs, or dogs they no longer want and drive out into the country and release them.

This one particular house I occasionally have to ride by has 3 rather large & aggressive dogs who are really a nuisance and their owner is even worse... he actually seems to get a kick out of watching his dogs chasing, barking and nipping at the rare bicyclist that happens to ride by (he stands there laughs & eggs on his dogs). I really couldn't believe this was happening. Well this happened to me one to many times. I tried talking to this fellow & he just became rather arrogant saying that I shouldn't be riding my bike down his road (public road). I talked to the county sheriff about this situation and he gave me a solution that worked like a charm.

The next time I was riding my bike past this house sure enough the dogs were in hot pursuit & the human owner was rooting for his dogs. Well, I stopped stepped off my bike with it between me & the dogs, I pulled out of my handlebar bag my Walther .40cal S&W raised it and pointed my pistol at the most aggressive dog.

Funny, this time the owner quickly called off his dogs... gave me the strangest look and went back inside his home... now if I ride down this road for some reason the dogs no longer chase me. Problem solved!

The sheriff's response... if a dog comes at you aggressively out on a country road (in my county)... and you are fearful of getting bit, and it does not stop when you yell at it... and especially if the owner does nothing to intervene... shoot it!!!
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