Rumors of a truck strike???

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Postby Oregonian » Sun May 18, 2008 8:44 pm

Personally, I think this gas stuff is a bunch of HOOY Just linning someones pockets. :thumbdown: :x
They are just shutting down alot of businesses because they are not able to pay the price for???????????whatever. :grouch day1:
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Postby mandy » Wed May 28, 2008 5:14 pm

I saw this today Truck Drivers in the UK are protesting $9.00 a gallon prices and are blocking roads in London. I wonder when American will take the hint and do the same.
Heres the story: http://www.cnbc.com/id/24841300/for/cnbc

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Postby TheBizMan » Wed May 28, 2008 5:43 pm

I was just wondering. Are the oil companies and the tobacco companies owned by the same people. Both operate at the expense of and have no respect for the public. :roll:
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Postby Claw » Wed May 28, 2008 8:43 pm

A fine cigar and a nice drive to great camp site are couple of the finer things in life :thumbsup: I am glad they are still delivering oil and haven't taken away the right to smoke about a campfire. God love the truckers and pay them what they need to take care of business :EXP
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Postby cs_whypt2 » Wed May 28, 2008 10:08 pm

Claw wrote:A fine cigar and a nice drive to great camp site are couple of the finer things in life :thumbsup: I am glad they are still delivering oil and haven't taken away the right to smoke about a campfire. God love the truckers and pay them what they need to take care of business :EXP


Jim, do you want more money? Is that what you are getting at?? :lol:
Them truck drivers are the reason why prices are so high!! I mean, cause truck drivers are rich??..... :thinking:
I agree with you Jim, but not the cigar thing, I am not much into those. :cigar:
I'll take a glass of wine though :wine: But I guess you can't drive with that, huh? :thinking: :thumbdown:
Oh well...I think of something. 8)

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Postby Oregonian » Sat May 31, 2008 7:02 pm

Dianne, if you can think of a better way to get what you eat, wear, outfit your home and ammo for that peashooter, then we all can get rid of the trucks.
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Postby Nitetimes » Sat May 31, 2008 11:39 pm

Oregonian wrote:Dianne, if you can think of a better way to get what you eat, wear, outfit your home and ammo for that peashooter, then we all can get rid of the trucks.
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I don't believe she was insinuating we need to get rid of the trucks, I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm! 8) 8)

I could be wrong but i doubt it. 8) 8)
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Postby Oregonian » Sat May 31, 2008 11:59 pm

Rich, she kinda hit a nerve. I was a truck driver for 38 years, and I for one, am not rich by no means. I am not saying that there are some drivers that make a heck of a good living, but they are not the reason that the prices are too high. When you have to pay 1000 dollars for fuel almost everytime you fuel, what else can they do. The idiots that are making the gas and diesel prices should be taken for a ride. Everyone that I talk to about this fuel situation is fed up with the oil owners, might have used the wrong word, but you get the drift..
As you know as well as any person that knows the transportation system, that the railroad and the trucking industries can not work alone. I somewhat agree with Dianne, but in order to have what we have, and that is everything we have, it has to come by train or/and truck.
I was in on the shut down in 1974/5 and I saw what it did to the country. Don't ever want to see that happen again.
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Postby Nitetimes » Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:07 am

Bruce, I'm sure she didn't intend it that way. Most of us are well aware of the importance of the trucks on the road. Gotta eat, need clothes ect.
I know a lot of truck drivers and I don't know any rich ones. I really don't understand how some of the independents are staying on the road, really has to be hurting them!!!
Now I do know a few railroad folks (men & women) and I will say they ain't hurtin'!! But they don't own the train either! 8)
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Postby Oregonian » Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:09 am

Rich, I think that I will vote for you in 2008. We need someone that owns a teardrop in office. :rofl: What are you running for???????????? :thumbsup:
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Postby Nitetimes » Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:19 am

Oregonian wrote:Rich, I think that I will vote for you in 2008. We need someone that owns a teardrop in office. :rofl: What are you running for???????????? :thumbsup:
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Why president of the U.S. of A. of course!!!
I'd just like to see somebody get in that's even got a lick of common sense, it would be a pleasant change up for sure!!! 8)
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Postby Oregonian » Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:41 am

You have my vote. Just have to write it in.
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Postby cs_whypt2 » Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:49 pm

Nitetimes wrote:
Oregonian wrote:Dianne, if you can think of a better way to get what you eat, wear, outfit your home and ammo for that peashooter, then we all can get rid of the trucks.
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I don't believe she was insinuating we need to get rid of the trucks, I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm! 8) 8)

I could be wrong but i doubt it. 8) 8)


Yeah...
That was a whole lot of sarcasm....

And if we are going to tax trucks for getting in our ways on the weekends (how dare they) then why don't trucks tax us for getting in their way on the weekdays?


^I was in agreeing with you, not agrueing.

This is EXACTLY what my dad and I were talking about!
Dad = Truck driver
Uncle = Truck driver
Uncle = Truck driver
Grandpa = Trucker driver
Cousin = dock worker for a trucking company


^Yes, I understand what it is like to be trucking for a living. I may not do it, but I am directly dependant on it.

Production would drop for truckers. And do mail trucks count too? That means the stamps are going to go up again, because the mail trucks will still run on weekends and will then have to pay this tax. And milk? We can't let milk sit until Monday. I don't want to see milk prices rise anymore unless farmers start seeing an increase in their profits. Another thing are the gas trucks. That would be a dream for the oil companies. They could park their trucks on Friday and not drive them at all on the weekends causing gas shortages. Then when the gas prices go up they can blame it on supply and demand.


^And that there would be explaining why I don't want it to be any harder on truckers.

Sorry if you didn't understand.
Hopes this clears it up.

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Postby daddiozz » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:26 pm

Elumia wrote:Diesel costs more because you get less of it per barrel of oil.




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...Mark ,I do not know where your sources came from ,but they left out a few things...not the least of which is the fact its easier to make diesel fuel from crude than gasoline ..a barrel of crude can be used to make either/or........also kerosene ,jet fuel,home heating oil, and diesel fuel are all different grades of the same fuel ...much like the different grades in gasoline you buy at the pump...diesel fuel specifically is sold at the pump as #1 diesel (farm diesel...typically used in tractors etc...also known as kerosene ...used in portable heaters ...as well as home heating oil,used in furnaces etc) # 2 diesel ..road diesel (used in trucks and automobiles for road use only) ....#3 is jet fuel ....think of them as #1 as regular #2 as super and #3 as ultra.....

Up until only a few years ago the kerosene based fuels were selling at or BELOW the prices being paid for gasoline ...go figure that one out.


Personally I don't buy into the "supply vs demand" issue as the reason for higher fuel prices.Greed is the prime motivating factor in play .Politics plays a role as well... Bear with me a moment or two on this and you'll see my point.....
...When exactly did fuel prices in general begin their upward climb in the USA?...I may not be the sharpest tack in the drawer ,but its been my observance that prices didn't start going thru the roof until 2 things happened .
....#1 The USA continued prescence in the middle east(IRAQ)...nobody in the middle east wants us there ...most considered the problems with Saddam to have been a "local" matter to be best handled by Iraq's neighbors not the USA.WE kicked his butt the first time at the "invitation" of Kuwait...the second time we went in on our own..
...#2 the proliferation of fuel efficent vehicles in the market place . We 've always had compact and subcompact cars that have delivered very good mpg,but for a variety of reasons their numbers were small compared to most vehicles sold .When hybrids first hit the market most thought it was just a fad that would soon pass ....but it didnt, its now possible to buy larger vehicles that thru various technologies (including but not limited to hybrids)that deliver much better mpg figures than the same sized vehicles in the past .While the number of vehicle sold is greater now than ever before the efficiency of those vehicles is increasing as well ...with the net result being on a case to case basis the consumers (you and me ) are buying less gas per vehicle; even though we are driving the same miles as before.Less gas sold means fewer profits for the oil companies ..

Those who live in homes heated by kerosene based fuels have to pay whatever price is charged or freeze in the cold .Our transportation industry is fueled by diesel ....the goods do not get to the market place on their own and the railroads,trucking companies and everybody else that has goods have no choice but to pay whatever price the oil companies charge or go out of business......the rest of us don't HAVE to drive /operate fuel in-efficient vehicles....the transportation industry has no choice.they are a captive audience...
.....Everyone is quick to blame the oil companies,and while they do have some control of prices that control is limited to the price they charge over and beyond their costs to refine the crude oil sold to them from other companies IN THE MIDDLE EAST.....sorry for the rant,misleading information really pushes the wrong buttons with me. :x
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Postby Oregonian » Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:12 pm

Boy Mike, you really started something, and everyone that replys, has great contributations.

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