Bigfoot Body found

[cs_whypt2]

I don't care one way or the other.
I don't understand how they got human DNA. Was it just a suit or was there meat inside the costume? Or did they get the DNA from hair...but you just said it was a suit, so wouldn't the hair be from the suit? ... So, where did they get the body from?
So lets say that there was no body, or at least not human, and there was no foul play done...then can someone explain to me why they lost there jobs? Is it illegal to say that you found bigfoot when it was a lie? What if a firefighter said it, or a teacher, or a nurse?
Just wondering...

Dianne

[Beachbuggy]

From what I gathered they set out to decieve and earn a large amount of cash from the get go.
They had to make a big deal, call for DNA testing and a press conference to really make it look good to the buyer.
Selling the frozen corpse for an "undisclosed" amount of money which had to have been BIG!
When the buyer thawed it, he found out it was a rubber suit and now wants his money back, but the guys are out of contact now

The cop should have lost his job. He's supposed to be a trusted public servant, it is public record now that he will lie and take money for his personnal gain, not someone you want in a cop.

I would think they could be sued for fraud also.

[planovet]

The cop should have lost his job. He's supposed to be a trusted public servant, it is public record now that he will lie and take money for his personnal gain, not someone you want in a cop.

On Tuesday, Clayton County Police Chief Jeff Turner said he has not spoken to Whitton but processed paperwork to fire him.

"Once he perpetrated a fraud, that goes into his credibility and integrity," Turner said. "He has violated the duty of a police officer."

Good!!

[sushidog]

Here's an interesting article that makes me believe that there is at least a huge possibility if not a probability that bigfoot exists.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/08 ... .gorillas/

It seems that scientists recently discovered that there are twice the number of western lowland gorillas in the Congo than previously thought. There is a group of about 60,000 previously undiscovered large primates (the number, not the species) that were not hiding, but were instead out in plain sight for anyone looking to see. Now, if this huge number of large primates remained undiscovered from inquiring scientists all these years, isn't it at least possible that a few, intelligent primates (whose sole existence hinges on them not being discovered) continue to remain hidden except for an occasional chance encounter?

Though I've never seen a bigfoot, I have seen black panthers here in Louisiana, on two separate occasion, over 30 miles apart. To this day wildlife experts deny their existence in spite of numerous reports to the contrary. Granted, this is an elusive nocturnal animal that due to it's predatory nature is very stealthy and found in small numbers - similar to the way a bigfoot type creature would have to exist.

There are those in this area who claim to have seen the "Honey Island Swamp Monster" (a reptile footed beast) from as far back as the 1960's. Who knows what kind of elusive creatures lurk way back in the swamps where few if any people have ever been?

Healthy scepticism is good, because it forces us to seek for incontrovertible scientific evidence. Cynicism is bad because it closes our minds to the truth blinding us to new ideas and discoveries. Most importantly this arrogant self righteousness destroys the wonder of nature in our hearts and minds.

[cs_whypt2]

From what I gathered they set out to decieve and earn a large amount of cash from the get go.
They had to make a big deal, call for DNA testing and a press conference to really make it look good to the buyer.
Selling the frozen corpse for an "undisclosed" amount of money which had to have been BIG!
When the buyer thawed it, he found out it was a rubber suit and now wants his money back, but the guys are out of contact now

The cop should have lost his job. He's supposed to be a trusted public servant, it is public record now that he will lie and take money for his personnal gain, not someone you want in a cop.

I would think they could be sued for fraud also.

I guess I kind of see it now. I didn't know that they called up everything. I didn't know there was money involved. (Shows how much I looked into this.) But I did hear of it! Any way...I see. What I was thinking was...
Person 'A' exclaimed that he found something
and
People 'B' wanted to have a press confrence and get DNA tests.
Tisk, Tisk...I should have remembered the money. It is just like my history teacher said...if you ask 'why' something was done, you can always put a safe bet on 'money' being the answer.

Dianne

[doug hodder]

Lots of pertinent quotes come to mind...." A fool and his money are soon parted" or how about "Never give a sucker an even break" It's no different than guys selling the Brooklyn bridge or the Statue of Liberty, swamp land in Florida..or the Nigerian lottery/oil leases yada yada yada.....They threw out the bait and a fish took it! Whether or not anyone believes in Bigfoot doesn't matter....someone didn't drive the car before they bought it! Doug

[Gage]

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I don't understand how they got human DNA.
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Just wondering...Dianne

Dianne, three samples were submitted of which one was human, one was chicken and the other they couldn't test because of it's condition. That was probably the BIGFOOT sample.

What I want to know is, what happened to the other BIGFOOTS that they saw. Are they still on the loose? Do I need to load my shot gun and keep it by the door or stick it under my mattress in the teardrop so I'll be safe when camping in the Redwoods? Oh, wait a minute, they were spotted in Georgia, long ways from California.

[pete.wilson]

Hey

Well there's a lot more going on to this story. One the men, the police officer did in fact lose his job as a public servant due to fraud. One of the investigators who came down from New York (Steve Kulls, the Sasquact Detective) has been kicked out of two groups that I belong to because he wasn't willing to call it a hoax and Tom Biscardi who put up the money claims the money is gone and he was scammed by the two GA idiots which is BS, IMO. The whole matter is still unraveling in different ways yet. You can read some of it on the BFRO website's front page, just type BFRO in your search and it will come up.

Pete Wilson

[CPASPARKS]

Ya...I was reading this morning about this. The two jerks in Georgia finally admitted it was all a big joke. Really funny...wasn't it???

I do not discount the fact that ole Bigfoot maybe for real.

Since they researchers just found all those thousands of gorillas in the Congo....well...we might have a few elusive creatures in North America of our own.

Ya know...the last two year campouts out LCG at Lake Bistineau in Louisiana...well...I could see the possibilities....Hee Hee!!

[caseydog]

According to a CNN Poll, 41% of Americans believe in Bigfoot, even though evidence of its existence is fuzzy.

According to another CNN poll, only 56% of Americans believe that global warming exists, and that it can human activities are a significant cause, even thought there is an enormous amount of scientific evidence to support this idea.

Interesting.

[planovet]

Two things I found interesting:

They are co-owners of a company that offers Bigfoot merchandise.

A little publicity stunt to boost sales maybe? One of them is going to need it after losing his police job.

Phone calls to Whitton and Dyer went unreturned on Tuesday. But the voicemail recording for their Bigfoot Tip Line — which proclaims they search for leprechauns and the Loch Ness monster — has been updated and announcing they're also in search of "big cats and dinosaurs. If you see any of those, give us a call."

What asylum did they escape from??

[Dean in Eureka, CA]

I'm hoping that the three of them end up doing jail time when all is said and done...
Tom Biscardi was charging two bucks a pop to see a picture on his website.
Seems to me that fraud was commited here...

[pete.wilson]

Hey

From Steves websire's front page:

No need to go into much of what has happened the last few weeks, many of you know the story all too well.

I will also state out of the people involved in my organization, it was only me on this mission. Not Becky, Billy , Sean or anyone, just me.

I will start by all saying, we all make some mistakes. Some say it was a mistake going on the air Monday July 28th, 2008 in the middle of "Camp Biscardi". I agree. I admit it. I made a mistake, an error in judgment. I should not have put myself in the position of physical harm (not being killed but a physical confrontation, or dependency on them for extraction) to tell the ENTIRE story. All a man can do is apologize and learn by it. I have done such. Forgiveness is in the eye of people. People who at times have erred too, and have been forgiven. If they chose to forgive me for it I will not ever let them down again. If they choose not to forgive me for it, I forgive them for their anger.

The Special Edition show, a few say it was a mistake going on air as soon as possible after, because I had not had much clarity and sounded exhausted. I was mentally and physically exhausted. For that I have to say, no. At the time I was not ready yet to completely implicate Biscardi in being complicit with anything yet. I needed rest, clarity and a review of materials. But I did need to get the word out that YES, I was lied to and misled, and yes there was an attempt at a cover-up, that had I not been there could have been one of the possible scenarios resulting.

As to Dyer's new videos implicating me, well consider the source. I think we need not much to ponder upon that. The truth in all of this matter is on my side, no one else's. I'll take a polygraph on any of these items and allegations on my "complicity".

Plain and simple, I put the parties in contact at their request, fed a bunch of deceptions and flew out there to Indiana to verify real or not. I expected not to be in the middle of any controversy, I was in air at the time of the press conference. At the time of my show, I had thought the only people Biscardi had lied to was myself and the crew there, not knowing what he had said at the press conference. I now know differently. And again apologize for not being "in the know" before airing Monday.

There are many that were "in the loop" on my side. More than a handful of my closest people.

They know this too is the entire truth and why now I feel that Biscardi was complicit in this.

It's either that or he is the most naive person in the world. But none the less, you cannot take away the fact he lied to the public, and that is not a good reflection upon our research efforts. So it is complicity even if it is by stupidity. But in my opinion, I believe he knew exactly what he was doing. It was clear Whitton and Dyer were attempting to scam others so Biscardi didn't start this hoax, but became part of it by lies and deceptions. I believe that they got him in deep, and for Biscardi there was no turning back. Biscardi didn't start this ruse, but he rose to it by lying, deceiving people what he saw...oh yeah there's that DNA letter thing too.

I stated on my blog, that should this be a hoax, it would be a death blow for Tom Biscardi and his company. Now his investors must look at what has happened and make further judgments on their future involvement with him.

I stated to an organization a year and a half or so, that if something were to happen like this, I would get the truth out there, and here it is folks, my time-line. What was said what was done. My allegiance is to the truth.

HERE IS FULL DISCLOSURE:

TIMELINE

June 16 - Whitton & Dyers site created

July 9 - Whitton states on video that they've recovered a Bigfoot "corpse". Coincidentally after Whitton is released from hospital from being shot.

July 25 - I issue challenge to get them to come on Radio Show

July 28 - Dyer asks me to call him, speak with him. I can't get him to crack, asks who is Tom Biscardi.

July 28 - I put Biscardi in contact with them.

July 28 - Dyer appears on my Radio Show

July 29 - Called and thank Dyer for being on show. Biscardi tells me Dyer stated they sold the "corpse" to the National Enquirer.

July 30 - I find out they did not sell body to National Enquirer as they stated to us personally, and attorney mentioned on radio show knew nothing of a bigfoot body. Biscardi calls me and tells me Dyer and Whitton want him to deal with the body exclusively.

July 30 - Both Whitton and Dyer appear on Biscardi's Radio show

July 31 - I call SFB VP Bob Schmalzbach and tell him I think this is a con, he needs to talk to Biscardi. He tells me to call him. I do get a voicemail. I'll cll in the early AM.

BISCARDI'S FIRST TRIP

Aug 1 - I call Biscardi and advise him of some revealing information about Dyer, I believe this is a con. Biscardi says he'll get to the bottom of it. Receive a phone call, from Biscardi, wants me to write an interim contract. Tells me he's going to get DNA.

Aug 2 - Biscardi calls and when asked states he cannot speak about what he saw. Calls later saying that he was "Right there when the DNA was cut from the body". States "This thing has incredibly thick skin"

Aug 4 -Contract stated my name as the introductory party as my only involvement. Told that the DNA is being hand delivered to Dr. Curt Nelson

BISCARDI'S SECOND TRIP

Aug 9 - Biscardi told me that tomorrow he's taking the measurements, and taking pictures.

Aug 10 - Biscardi describes the body, tells me about the eyes, the teeth, and genitalia.

Aug 11 - Biscardi forwards me an email from Dr. Nelson stating the DNA amplification size was consistent with human/ape and was going to be sequenced.

Aug 13 - I was given picture of alleged corpse. I had issues with the body. Biscardi sees my doubts tells asks me if he "would drop 50 large if this wasn't the real thing, I saw it".

Aug 14 - Saw comparisons of pictures to costume. Expressed it to Biscardi who told me he saw it and its not a costume, its the real thing. Crew picks up freezer from Whitton and Dyer, give them $50K. Crew thought it was supposed to be defrosted but they found it frozen. when I heard "corpse" was in transport I buy my plane ticket.

Aug 15 - Depart airport arrive in Indianapolis at 4:10PM EST. In flight during press conference. At Press conference (Palo Alto, Ca) Whitton describes how they cam across "corpse" etc. Biscardi states He touched it, smelled it, felt it amongst other deceptions.

Aug 15 - I am driven to location in Indiana, outside of Muncie in a rural community. There are no TV's however I see a few snippets of Whitton on a computer at the press conference.

Aug 16 - Ice melts to where I can get a hair sample. I examined hairs and determine they are not hairs. We burn it an it balls up into a melted wad, uncharacteristic of hair. We begin speed thaw using a salamander heater, and eventually pull a rubber foot out. Advise Biscardi who is unusually calm about it.

Aug 16 - Biscardi calls (two of the crew and investor are not present at the time) and he wants to fill the freezer up with water, freeze it, release it back to Whitton & Dyer and we'd make a statement that the public pressure was too much on them and they took their body back, and place a gag order on it, never speak of it again. I staunchly object and would not participate in it.

Aug 16 - I talk with Whitton to return the money, he states they don't have it and the only want to deal with Biscardi. Biscardi calls back and claims that Whitton & Dyer will sign a promissory note and confession the next morning before they leave for home. I draw up the documents. I try to be extricated but it would be a great burden on my friends and would place one at risk of safety driving there to pick me up. (Did not want him falling asleep at wheel).

Aug. 17 - Whitton and Dyer left before their scheduled meeting with Biscardi. Biscardi wants press there to expose it as a hoax, I am not able to leave because of this. I prepare a statement. Monday is a no go for home either now.

Aug 18 - Bob Schmalzbach removes many of the separation items in the statement. Media shows up and statement is transmitted. They are angry because of this position of separation.

Aug 18 - Squatchdetective Radio airs I announce the hoax at 10:10 PM, am flooded by several questions about Whitton, Dyer, etc. Last callers lower the boom on Biscardi. I am in the presence of Biscardi's son and close friend, if I agreed on the lying at that point it could have risked me physical harm. Why I responded the way I did by not answering. Not denying either. When asked about Biscardi's complicity, I stated "I don't believe so." At the time I did not. But I needed to review the conference as well as other materials and digest.

Aug 18 - Everyone is enraged I didn't call out Biscardi that night...I will not succumb either to peer pressure, to state a popular opinion. I needed to get my "ducks in a row." I had to get my head clear...and relevant facts entered. I also learn from a source that the DNA report he sent me on the 11th most likely was altered.

Aug 19 - I leave 5+ hours early for the airport, and soon as my "handlers" leave I get the word out of what had occurred, the deceptions. I apologized to listeners of the previous show for not being able to tell it like it is. My mistake...show could have waited. I am physically and mentally exhausted. Officially break ties with Tom Biscardi and his company. I arrive home at 11:30PM from airport.

Aug 20 - Whitton and Dyer state Biscardi and I coached them. I issued statement stating the above involvement was all I've had, I never met them or even been to Georgia this year. I Agree to take polygraph if anyone volunteers one. I Issue a cease and desist letter to Biscardi for any attempt at communication to me.

Aug 21 - I appear on Fox and Friends at 6:50AM and reveal the deceptions of Tom Biscardi now believing he was complicit in the hoax based upon the DNA email and statements made.

Aug 22 - Squatchdetective.com updated to reflect the facts in this matter.





Pete Wilson