Is there a good application for hydrogen?

[jstrubberg]

Just to clarify, if you want to use ergs as a counter instead of dollars, the equation still comes out the same way. It requires more ergs to produce the hydrogen than the hydrogen tself can give back to you. It's a losing scenario all the way around.

NASA doesn't use it because it's efficient, they use it because it gives them more heat, thus more thrust than anything else available.

[Martinup]

Happy Easter folks:
This weekend is open season on as many bunnies’s as you can run over and eat. I really want to try apple fed beef dung to see what it can do for the flavor of my chocolate bunny fondue.

Gus I am sorry for the need of the serious pain medication. The Wikipedia article is excellent. I will explore that in more depth and its authors. It is a good over view perspective. I have read some on using light in improving the man made production of hydrogen. This and magnetism really get my mind contemplating the holy grail or the perfect energy.
Tesla, Edward Leedskallin, Keally and many others have traveled down this road in search of it.

Jtsruberg In addition to heat what does hydrogen give off compared to fossil fuels? All good campers bring out their garbage to preserve nature for future visitors. As of yet we can’t take back our carbon foot print without simply walking in and walking out nor is it particle unless you are a serious hiking enthusiast with no job. Wait a minute doesn't that mean your homeless? I ponder the global warming thing?

So let’s recap: Now we have to buy expensive inefficient apple fed cow dung so we don’t burn the campsite down. Our Alberta Beef is right up there with the Texas Beef when it doesn’t contain mad cow disease.

I love the camp fire . . . it is one of the most amazing parts of the unplugged evening entertainment and comfort. I too have trouble resisting the urge not to burn our politicians along with all the Off Gassing. It would probably one of our most efficient fuel sources yet.

Anyway all jokes aside with all the politicians, cows and Human beings off gassing and just generally living in such a great standard of living and comfort the two most critical uses of energy Home heating powering and transportation. The next is all the industry that supports our standard of living.

That is why I want to know and better use Hydrogen.


Martin

[eamarquardt]

Happy Easter folks:
This weekend is open season on as many bunnies’s as you can run over and eat. I really want to try apple fed beef dung to see what it can do for the flavor of my chocolate bunny fondue. Suzy would kill me if I ran over any bunnies. She, apparently, values them more than she values me. I can't figure out why! When we moved in here, 27 years ago, there were few lizards and bunnies. Now we have lottsa them.

Gus I am sorry for the need of the serious pain medication. I use a minimum dose, just to take the edge off. Being pain free simply isn't an option. The Wikipedia article is excellent. I will explore that in more depth and its authors. It is an excellent article. PM me and I'll send you a link to my detailed saga. My case is a lot "more fascinating" according to one of my doctors, arg! It is a good over view perspective. Again, excellent. I have read some on using light in improving the man made production of hydrogen. This and magnetism really get my mind contemplating the holy grail or the perfect energy. Yes, but there isn't a Holy Grail, ha. Just the laws of thermodynamics.
Tesla, Edward Leedskallin, Keally and many others have traveled down this road in search of it.

Jtsruberg In addition to heat what does hydrogen give off compared to fossil fuels? All good campers bring out their garbage to preserve nature for future visitors. As of yet we can’t take back our carbon foot print without simply walking in and walking out nor is it particle unless you are a serious hiking enthusiast with no job. Wait a minute doesn't that mean your homeless? I ponder the global warming thing? Burning hydrogen produces water vapor. If you use it in an internal combustion engine it can, just like gasoline, produce oxides of nitrogen.

So let’s recap: Now we have to buy expensive inefficient apple fed cow dung so we don’t burn the campsite down. Our Alberta Beef is right up there with the Texas Beef when it doesn’t contain mad cow disease. Yes, exactly!!!!

I love the camp fire . . . it is one of the most amazing parts of the unplugged evening entertainment and comfort. I too have trouble resisting the urge not to burn our politicians along with all the Off Gassing. It would probably one of our most efficient fuel sources yet. You'll have to burn up the folks that are buying off the current politicians as they will simply buy the next batch also. You gotta get to the root of the problem.

Anyway all jokes aside with all the politicians, cows and Human beings off gassing and just generally living in such a great standard of living and comfort the two most critical uses of energy Home heating powering and transportation. The next is all the industry that supports our standard of living. We are spoiled in comparison to the rest of the world.

That is why I want to know and better use Hydrogen.

Yup it can help a lot once we figure out how to make it "cost effectively. We just ain't there yet.
Martin

Gotta go. I heard there is a previously undiscovered cow dung deposit nearby. I wanna go get mine before the rush hits.

Cheers,

Gus

[Forrest747]

I do find it intresting that the fuel for the space shuttles is basically hydrogen and oxygen. combining the two to make water is enough to launch a rocket.

[eamarquardt]

I do find it intresting that the fuel for the space shuttles is basically hydrogen and oxygen. combining the two to make water is enough to launch a rocket.

True. Like anything, using hydrogen as a rocket fuel is a compromise. In the past they have used kerosene with good success.

The space shuttle, in addition to the H2/02 powered engines, had two "roman candles" strapped to its sides. They too, given the disaster one caused, were a compromise.

Wikipedia's article is interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_propellant

Cheers,

Gus

[SteveW]

I do find it intresting that the fuel for the space shuttles is basically hydrogen and oxygen. combining the two to make water is enough to launch a rocket.

I hear NASA has closed the space shuttle program to go back to some older rocket designs.