9/11 Remembered

[Ira]

It's amazing how you can watch a few documentaries on HBO and then get all pissed off, sad and vengeful--all at the same time. Just like it was yesterday.

By the way, does anyone remember that fantastic documentary about a town in Canada (near Halifax?) that hosted stranded Americans, whose planes were diverted there when they shut down U.S. airspace?

Man, that show brought tears to my eyes (of gratitude), but I couldn't find it listed for airing yesterday. Maybe today?

[sunny16]

We had one of the ducumentaries on regular TV last night and it caused quite a stir in the community. Many people emailed the TV station last week asking them not to air it due to the grafic (sp) nature of the program and the language in it. How quickly we forget. The played it anyway, no commercial breaks as it was filmed. I watched it and remembered how I felt that day.

[Joseph]

Many people emailed the TV station last week asking them not to air it due to the grafic (sp) nature of the program and the language in it.

Good for your station! You're right - we forget way too quickly. Personally, I think it should be shown annually at the very least.

Joseph

[Ira]

You're right - we forget way too quickly. Personally, I think it should be shown annually at the very least.

That was my point of the thread--it's amazing how you can so easily forget.

Man, seeing those people falling from those buildings, hearing the reactions of people on the ground, and remembering how YOU felt that day.

It all comes right back to you--and it should.

[Joseph]

It all comes right back to you--and it should.

For once we are in complete agreement!

Joseph

[angib]

By the way, does anyone remember that fantastic documentary about a town in Canada (near Halifax?) that hosted stranded Americans, whose planes were diverted there when they shut down U.S. airspace?

That would be Gander, Newfoundland. CBC web page.

I'm (just) old enough to remember when transatlantic planes used to land in Shannon in the south of Ireland and top of their fuel tanks - that would just get them to Gander, where they'd refuel again to get to the US east coast.

Andrew

[Ira]

Yep, Gadner.

And I found the name of that 1-hour documentary, produced by CPB-- but I don't know if that means Canadian Public Broadcasting or the Coproration for Public Broadcasting, which I think encompasses both Canada and the U.S.

It's called "Stranded Yanks: A Diary Betwen Friends."

I'll be pretty pissed if it isn't on TV week, but you can pick up the DVD for under 10 bucks.

But have a tissue handy.

[madjack]

...as much as I detest Howdy Doody and his henchmen, the fact remains that we are in a world wide struggle against Islamic extremists who would see the world plunged into the dark ages with them in control. So many forget that fact along with the trajedy of September 11, 2001.....

A Short tale...

My sister, brother in law and another couple recently visited NY on a combination pleasure/business trip...their story of visiting Ground Zero...it's gaping hole in the earth, the little church were the rescue workers shelterd, the pictures of the missing and the rescue workers and their efforts, brought home to them the horrors of that day, the way nothing else had previously done...her tale of her and her girl friend in silent tears for the sacrifice of so many and two big, burly Texans absolutely choked to silence by the remberances and emotions that their visit to the site caused them....

"LEST WE FORGET......." I hope you are flying a flag today.....

Jack

[sid]

I hope that you are all flying a flag every day.

God Bless America.

[Joseph]

I hope that you are all flying a flag every day.

Weather permitting, yes.

Joseph

[Ira]

Weather permitting, yes.

Time for another argument, because I never understood this one:

If you're flying a flag, why is it disrespectful to do so in the rain?

I didn't do it today, but I usually tape a smaller flag--but still pretty big-- onto the antenna of my truck. I have like a dozen of these which I stick in the ground around the large one in the front of the house.

(I'm very into flying the flag, because as a raging liberal, it really messes with all of the neo-cons' heads around here!)

Seriously, I just don't get what's so bad about it if it's raining.

(And can you believe that the Nazis in my city who won't let me have a TD parked outside fined a gas station for putting up dozens of flags last July 4th because it violated their "signage" ordinance?)

[Joseph]

If you're flying a flag, why is it disrespectful to do so in the rain?

It's not. Flag etiquette is part of Federal Law known as the Flag Code. However, it doesn't say you can't fly a flag in the rain - it says that the flag should be flown in fair weather, unless the flag is designed for inclement weather use. Mine is of heavy cotton and can stand up to inclement weather, but if it gets soaked it'll most likely pull the bracket out of the wall and dump the whole thing on the ground. Not good. Hence my "weather permitting."

Joseph

[Ira]

If you're flying a flag, why is it disrespectful to do so in the rain?

It's not. Flag etiquette is part of Federal Law known as the Flag Code. However, it doesn't say you can't fly a flag in the rain - it says that the flag should be flown in fair weather, unless the flag is designed for inclement weather use. Mine is of heavy cotton and can stand up to inclement weather, but if it gets soaked it'll most likely pull the bracket out of the wall and dump the whole thing on the ground. Not good. Hence my "weather permitting."

Okay--now I get it. But I think the intent of the law is a little outdated in today's times:

I don't think it's a horrible thing if your flag CAN'T withstand the elements and eventually wears out from exposure, especially since you can replace it anyway.

I mean, it's just fabric. It's what it represents that's important.

[sunny16]

I have a little 6" flag I stuck in my pencil holder on my desk back in 2001 when all this happened. I still have it there, every day so I don't forget. I can't believe it's been 5 years ago. Never forget!

[Joseph]

I don't think it's a horrible thing if your flag CAN'T withstand the elements and eventually wears out from exposure, especially since you can replace it anyway.

Actually, I doubt that there are too many flags made today that aren't suitable for inclement weather use. I'm pretty sure that when that law was written flags were often made of silk and were not color fast. I think having the colors all run together is what prompted this bit.

To dispose of a worn out flag properly, your best bet is to give it to your local chapter of the VFW or American Legion and they'll do it for you.

Joseph