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Postby caseydog » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:24 pm

Looks like diesel power is destined to win for a second time at the 24 hour race this year. Here are the times for the first practice session, and six of the top ten spots are diesel powered cars (all the Peugeots and Audis are diesels).


1 Team Peugeot Total LAMY P. 3:22.222
2 Peugeot Sport Total MONTAGNY F. 3:26.641
3 Audi Sport North America BIELA F. 3:26.678
4 Team Peugeot Total GENE M. 3:27.248
5 Audi Sport Team Joest LUHR L. 3:28.359
6 Pescarolo Sport PRIMAT H. 3:33.939
7 Pescarolo Sport COLLARD E. 3:35.443
8 Team Oreca Matmut AYARI S. 3:36.264
9 Charouz Racing System MUCKE S. 3:36.426
10 Audi Sport North America CAPELLO R. 3:37.011

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Postby tonyj » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:01 pm

But at $4.79 a gallon, it's amazing anyone could afford to be running diesels!

I guess a 24 hours of LeMans would be pretty boring if they were running Prius's. :lol:
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Postby Ivar the Red » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:17 pm

tonyj wrote:But at $4.79 a gallon, it's amazing anyone could afford to be running diesels!

I guess a 24 hours of LeMans would be pretty boring if they were running Prius's. :lol:


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Postby mikeschn » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:32 pm

I'm waiting for my diesels to come out... ;)

I used to think I was waiting for the Jetta TDI...

but now I'm thinking about the 2010 Forester Diesel. It should be out in about a year...

Of course I also want to see how GM does on their 150 MPG "Volt".

If all of this discussion is for naught because the oil bubble bursts before then, then I'll just get the diesel for the low end acceleration (torque). I can give you guys whiplash, no problem!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby ATXKJ » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:45 pm

Diesel has been running about 15-20% more than Gas - but my mileage has been 20-30% higher than a comparable gassers
(and 50%better than my trade-in)
so I love my little diesel.
(and a Prius would have problems in Moab - no ground clearance)
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Postby caseydog » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:49 pm

One of the Peugeots went a bit too fast in practice...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KfdRTQEiyw

That's gonna leave a mark. :o


I don't know if European diesel prices are higher than gasoline (petrol) prices. I didn't find a good answer when I tried to google it.

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Postby caseydog » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:24 pm

Another cool video -- one lap of Lemans in a Pescarolo-Judd. Listen to all the shifting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjWnIDvCCiE

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Postby tonyj » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:43 pm

caseydog wrote:One of the Peugeots went a bit too fast in practice...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KfdRTQEiyw

That's gonna leave a mark. :o


I don't know if European diesel prices are higher than gasoline (petrol) prices. I didn't find a good answer when I tried to google it.

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Diesel in Germany is approx 1.468 euros per liter. If my currency conversion and math are correct, that works out to $8.61/gal. :?

And diesel is still cheaper than gas over there, but not by much.
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Postby mikeschn » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:48 pm

If diesel was still cheaper than gas over here, diesels would be flying off the car lots...

But even with diesel at $4.99 and gas at $3.99, I am still thinking of getting one...

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Postby toypusher » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:56 pm

mikeschn wrote:If diesel was still cheaper than gas over here, diesels would be flying off the car lots...

But even with diesel at $4.99 and gas at $3.99, I am still thinking of getting one...

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Do diesels get better mileage??
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Postby Catoosa Grani » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:59 pm

Henk is at Le Mans. He has been going for several years and is taking his teenage daughter this year. I told him to be sure and tell us all about it with pictures and details. He has been counting the days now for several months. I guess he is there now having a great time.

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Postby mikeschn » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:04 pm

The Jetta TDI for 2009 is looking at about 60 MPG
http://gas2.org/2008/05/09/2009-jetta-b ... emissions/

The Jetta gasser is 21/29

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Postby Mary K » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:08 pm

caseydog wrote:One of the Peugeots went a bit too fast in practice...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KfdRTQEiyw

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:frightened: Oooo, He got some air time on that one. :lol:

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Postby Bristol Delica » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:26 pm

Current prices in the UK:

Standard gas - £1.22 per litre = £5.46 per UK gallon = $8.64 per US gallon

Diesel - £1.29 per litre = £5.86 per UK gallon = $9.28 per US gallon

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Postby packerz4 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:31 pm

i have two VW beetles...

'98 Gasser
'99 tdi

i get 30mpg with the gasser and 45mpg with the diesel...

when i figure it out per mile it's about $.13/mile for both of 'em based on current fuel prices.

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