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Way OT, Teardropping with a boat

Postby Normspeed » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:24 pm

For fishing trips with the tear, I carry a folding "Porta-Bote" on my car's roof. These are interesting little craft and with some home upgrades installed I find mine to be handy, tough, and amazingly seaworthy. They come in 8,10,12 and 14 foot models. I have a 12. It folds up to the size of a longboard. The hull alone weighs approx 70 lbs so I can wrangle it on and off the roof solo. Nissan 6 hp outboard.

You can see it on some of my pics at

http://ncarter819.photosite.com/Teardrop/

I've owned a lot of powerboats over the years, from 8 to 23 feet. This one is kinda quirky, lots of fun, has a few drawbacks (compromises). One thing is for sure, like camping with a teardrop, carrying a folding boat on the roof attracts curiosity seekers, big time!

If anyone's interested in these, I'd be glad to share what I've learned.

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Postby sedanman67 » Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:09 pm

I am interseted. I LOVE the water and was trying to find a way to drag the boat and the camper at the same time.
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Postby cracker39 » Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:32 pm

I like bass fishing in small lakes, which we have aplenty here in Florida. I've considered an inflatable pontoon boat like this:

http://www.waterotter.net/

I've also thought about making my own, using reinforced styrofoam pontoons and a bolt on platform and using a small electric trolling motor to get around. This would easily mount on top of my truck and weight little.
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Postby Chris C » Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:47 pm

Dale, those inflatables are nice, my brother uses one for small lake and large pond fishing. He says he much prefers it to a tube. I'd think it'd be a good addition to your teardrop travels.
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Postby dmb90260 » Sat Oct 08, 2005 3:28 pm

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After looking a second time at the Picacho Peak shot it finally dawned on me that the ramp was for the dogs. :o :lol: :applause:

I do two dog nights most of the time.

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Postby anonymous2 » Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:03 pm

Hi all,

My kayaks,and teardrop are almost always together,unless there is no water nearby. Folding boats I have seen,but it looks like 1 wrong move,and it's a submarine. I watched a guy in one being battered by a boat wakes,he was hanging on the sides,and looked scared,boat was flexing like a wave. To scary for me,and I ride skinny kayaks.

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Postby type82e » Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:25 pm

theres heaps of free boat building plans on the internet if you want to build your own small boat of plywood and epoxy to match your teardrop

just do a search on free boat plans
heres a few good ones

http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/gsahv/#XX1
http://www.alaska.net/~fritzf/Boats/Wac ... Lassie.htm
http://www.simplicityboats.com/
http://home.clara.net/gmatkin/freedes.htm
http://hometown.aol.com/polysail/HTML/oldboats.htm

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Postby Normspeed » Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:34 pm

LOL Pateardropper, the name on mine says it all. I put up some pics in another album on the same site. It does look shaky, but it's as good as a 12 foot aluminum, once you install some thin plywood floorboards. Up til then, the bottom flexes like a waterbed. Is your kayak rack mounted on your car roof or on your teardrop?

Dennis, good catch, only a dog lover would get that! I have 3 small dogs. one is a 15 year old dachshund, and the ramp makes it easy on me on a cold night. I can hook up their retractible leashes and open the door, they take themselves for a walk.

I looked at inflatibles too, they've come a long way with the technology. But I boat on desert lakes like Meade, Havasu, Elephant Butte so something like a mesquite thorn is a serious puncturing hazard. Ya don't want to step on one, for sure. I also wonder if something like a large catfish would present a puncture hazard if it got flopping around in the inflatible.

Marcel, those are some terrific sites. My first boat as a kid was an 8' mahogany plywood pram with a little evenrude kicker. I saw plans for one on one of the links. Oh no, another project! I'm addicted. :cry:
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Postby anonymous2 » Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:09 am

Hi Norm,

BTW, great work on the restoration of your teardrop. I carry my kayaks on the top of the truck. I wanted to haul them on the teardrop,but I have 2 kayaks that exceed 17',and over hung the teardrop to much,and violated Pa law on load haul overhang. It's better on the truck ,because the truck goes to the water,not the teardrop,saves loading & unloading. In this album is a couple of pictures of our set up.
http://community.webshots.com/album/204382077pWdJmx Pages 4+5

http://community.webshots.com/album/375714804oLVQUE

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Postby Normspeed » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:00 pm

sedanman67 wrote:I am interseted. I LOVE the water and was trying to find a way to drag the boat and the camper at the same time.


Long post, misc info about the Porta Bote (Moral is, don't get Normspeed talkin' about boats.):

I have an 18 foot runabout and once I started using the tear, I needed something I could cartop. I've cartopped 12' aluminums in the past, and that would be my other choice for teardropping. 50/50. The aluminums weigh more but can still be loaded by one person if you're clever about it. The Porta Bote is easier to get on the roof but the drawback is you need to carry a lot of gear in the vehicle and set it all up at the shore. Gear includes 3 seats, plywood transom, floor boards, platforms, motor, fuel tank, anchor, life vests, etc etc.. Someone compared it to traveling with a small baby.

The PB is remarkably stable, especially in a chop. Until I made some plywood slip-in flooring, it was difficult to move around inside the boat because the floor flexes like a heavy gauge waterbed. The floor boards solved that completely. Very stable for a 12 footer. The other drawback is assembly/disassembly at the shore. It only takes approx 10-15 minutes but can be a bit strenuous, especially in cold weather when the plastic is stiff. I've used the PB a lot in weather from 100 to well below freezing, and I put a lot of trust in it. I wouldn't suggest a PB to anyone with a serious back problem. It's cumbersome to carry and would be easy to pop your back out while setting it up. The 8 and 10 footers would be lighter in weight but some lakes have a 12 foot minumum length.

If you're looking at used ones be sure to get a later model (Generation II) with the squared off transom. The early PBs were double ended like kayaks or canoes and attaching an outboard involved an outrigger type of bracket. Portabotes come with 2-piece anodized aluminum/plastic oars and oarlocks. They row very well. You can even buy a sail kit as an option. Not being an experienced wind sailor or a strong swimmer, I opted out on the sail package. ;)

When you buy a package at the boat show like I did, you get a discount but you also get some things you could do better on aftermarket. Specifically the bimini top. For the same $$ Cabelas or Overtons will sell you a larger and better designed top. The clamp-on wheels, another extra, have been hanging in the shed since day one. The Nissan 4 stroke 6 hp outboard they sell with the package has proven to be a bit short on quality control. I guess all those years using Mercury 9.8s and Yamahas spoiled me. In fact, I'm looking for a used 9.8 Merc for the lakes where 2 strokes aren't prohibited. BTW-- Nissan, Mercury and Tohatsu 4 strokes of 8 hp and less are all made by Tohatsu. My opinion only, I would not buy another Tohatsu outboard.

There's a Porta-Bote company website, and a good PB discussion group on Yahoo. If you already have one of these and want to upgrade to floorboards and platforms I'll be glad to share dimensions, material info and techniques. My pics don't show the floorboards. just the platforms.

One last thing about Porta-Botes: MADE IN THE U.S.A.

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Postby sedanman67 » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:47 pm

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I'll finish the tear before I buy another boat though.
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