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Cyclone Dust collection

Postby grantstew8 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:56 am

:SG *WARNING* I have not: :SG

- built a dust extraction cyclone before
- had any experience or formal training in sheet metal work (and it shows)
- accurately sized the motor or pipe work
- not checked for pressure or air volumes
- got any plans to go into cyclone production
- any aspirations to make it prettier that it turned out

Cave quid legeris

Over the weekend, I've built a cyclone dust collector based loosely on Bill Pentz's design and website
http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm

Using some scrap aluminium I had from the donor caravan and a leaf blower I pulled out of a skip/dumpster my cyclone dust collector was born.

It's not pretty, does not look shop bought but is functional and took a week-end to wrestle together. I'm sure if one was to spend a month or two it would look beautiful, with perfect seams and joins.
I really wanted it to be up and working so I can carry on with my teardrop; it too will never look shop bought, however I'm loving the building experience.

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Re: Cyclone Dust collection

Postby GerryS » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:28 am

Got to watch static with those things....wow, they will bite you if they aren't grounded :)
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Re: Cyclone Dust collection

Postby Treeview » Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:12 am

Gerry,

Have you been snapped by static electricity from a dust collector?

I've followed dust collector discussions for years and read that this is more likely to be a myth. I'd like to hear if someone actually did get snapped...or just repeating stories.

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Re: Cyclone Dust collection

Postby Verna » Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:20 am

I have two dust collectors, one in the garage and the other in the workshop. I've never had a static electric shock. Both are Delta models-- one is 1.5 HP, the other a 1 HP model; both have a felt upper bag and both have a plastic lower bag. The workshop dust collector has permanent hose runs, while the garage one has to be connected to the tool being used due to space restrictions. Even moving the hoses do not produce a static shock.
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Re: Cyclone Dust collection

Postby CarlLaFong » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:57 am

How come, when I click, I'm told the video is private? Are you naked or something? :lol:
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Re: Cyclone Dust collection

Postby GerryS » Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:14 pm

Oh yeah. I definitely have. HARD.

I'm using a festool vac with a dust deputy cyclone. The cyclone itself works great. But willikers! I can consistantly get a good arc...
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Re: Cyclone Dust collection

Postby Treeview » Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:56 pm

I used to get tingles from my shop vac too. Then I took a length of small diameter chain and screwed it to the bottom of the canister. The chain drags around on the floor. After that...no more tingles!

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Re: Cyclone Dust collection

Postby Verna » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:04 pm

GerryS wrote:Oh yeah. I definitely have. HARD.

I'm using a festool vac with a dust deputy cyclone. The cyclone itself works great. But willikers! I can consistantly get a good arc...


Gerry, I used to have a boss who would get an arc when no one else was. It was just something about the guy producing static electricity. We threatened to put a ground wire from the office door to his desk, with a belt that he would have to attach to himself just so he could be comfortable in the drier winter months. I really felt sorry for him :( Maybe some people are just more prone to static charges than others.
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Re: Cyclone Dust collection

Postby GerryS » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:02 am

I don't know....I'm going to try the grounding chains though. I've seen these used on cars and trucks, it can't hurt with what I've got. It's dangerous, not just uncomfortable. The static charge and sawdust isn't a good combination.
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Re: Cyclone Dust collection

Postby Treeview » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:53 am

http://www.thewoodnerd.com/articles/dustExplosion.html

Dust explosion and static electricity.

Getting a tickle from a shop vac is different than using a real dust collector system.

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Re: Cyclone Dust collection

Postby GerryS » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:49 am

Tom I was looking for that. Atomized particulate (sawdust, coal, flour) can do some amazing fireballs if the conditions are right..,cyclonic dust collection is efficient but not without problems....
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Re: Cyclone Dust collection

Postby grantstew8 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:25 pm

Couple of things,' I've checked the settings and it is public, just click the link again.
There is no fear of any naked-ness :)

As for static and fear of explosion...I don't think I dont work hard enough or cut enough to risk that. It was used in "anger" for the first time yesterday, what a joy! :thumbsup: I can highly recommend building it.
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Re: Cyclone Dust collection

Postby mustangcats » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:40 pm

Doesn't work...says it's private.
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Postby GerryS » Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:04 pm

I have tried it with sawdust, but (outside) dip you fingers in flour and snap them to create a cloud over a candle...whoof! Same for grain mills...dust can and does ignite if conditions are right.

I think this is why my cyclone status disconnected until I solve the problem...

Besides that, it hurts!!!
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Re: Cyclone Dust collection

Postby grantstew8 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:51 am

I've redone youtube setting and I hope it's now view-able.

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This video is rated 18 and over as it contains sharp tools
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The only concerns about watching this video are poor humor, redneck workmanship and falling asleep at your pc.

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