Mike, at 74yrs I've decided my hay bale 'bucking' days are waaay in the past

. Dunno what kind of 'grass/vegetation' your hay is (alfalfa?), but the kind determines weight of the 'small' square bales (60-100lbs in the field here). Just before I turned 18yrs old a friend & I provided our own truck (ton & a half flatbed) & contracted to haul & stack in the barn @ 10 cents a bale, near 40k bales of hay, some grass, some lespadeza. & about half Sudan grass (the sudan was some heavy stuff

). Did that in less'n a month & after we paid for gas, a couple of vehicle breakdowns, & a helper (to mostly drive the truck

) we didn't make a lot. Luckily we were able to sell our old truck for a little profit. That was in Aug/Sep 1957; in Nov I enlisted in the USAF, became an Air Traffic Controller & never looked back

. When I enlisted in the Air Force I couldn't wait to get away from Arkansas & the farm, by the time I retired 20yrs later, I couldn't wait to get back

. Funny how yer attitude changes over the years...