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Postby nrody » Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:08 pm

I am in panic mode again. Everyone who has said they would help me with my trailer wiring has flaked and I just can't figure it out myself. I hate to ask for help but I think I have to. If anyone wants to volunteer a few hours of their time I would be most grateful.
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Re: Frustrated

Postby Verna » Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:51 pm

If I were closer, you know I would.

I just know someone will volunteer to help!!!
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Re: Frustrated

Postby nrody » Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:10 pm

Thank you Verna. Some things just are not in my skill level and it freaks me out. Specially when I need to have the tear ready for the IRG.
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Re: Frustrated

Postby Verna » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:44 am

OK, Nancy, what do you need? Diagram? List of needed tools? How to attach lights/fixtures/etc.? Encouragement that YES, YOU CAN TO DO IT--I've got plenty of that!!!
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Re: Frustrated

Postby S. Heisley » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:30 am

Nancy, I live too far away to give physical help (more than 500 miles). So, I waited to see if anyone would reply. While I’ve found that electrical isn't that difficult, helping another with theirs can have liability issues. Miles can keep people from offering but so can the possible liability.

While you may not get a physical help from many, you can still get help here; but, you have to give us more before we can give you advice. Explaining what you plan to do might help you get the physical help that you think you need, too.

This morning, I was still concerned about your need, when I realized that I haven't even seen a drawing of what you plan to do. Also, the pictures in your album are so small that it’s hard to see what you have. If I were you, I would start by drawing out what your electrical plans are and then take a picture of it and post it in your gallery and in this thread. Keep it as simple as you can. Simply draw out a rectangle to represent your trailer and mark where you want your lights to be installed; if you plan on a fan, indicate where that will go and the same with where you plan to have your battery, etc. Is your plan going to be both DC (battery) and AC (house current) or just DC? Are you planning on a converter or just a battery charger? Don’t worry that you’re not using some fancy program; just draw it and give us the answers so we will have a better idea of what you’re doing. Do you have your fixtures yet? Show us either by using a website picture or by taking a picture of it. But, please make your pictures bigger so we can see what we’re looking at. If you can, upload the drawing and a picture of the inside of your trailer in what I believe is the maximum allowed on the forum, which is 640 by 480 pixels.

It looks like you have a lot to do to finish your trailer; but, even if you don’t finish your wiring, there are ways to get it to the point that you might be able to continue on with your insulation, etc, and get it camp-able for IRG. Then, maybe you can get more help or advice when you are there.

I suspect that, as soon as you post your electrical plan, you’ll start getting a ton of advice, etc. Also, once the big picture is out on the forum, ask for more information; but, in little steps/pieces so that it is easier for people to answer and relate to.

Okay, it’s time for a Mama Sharon lecture.

For years, women have been told that they couldn’t do certain things. It was implied that they were too weak or too stupid. Men, on the other hand, were told that they could. What that did to women was make them think they couldn’t and made them afraid to try. What it did to men was make many of them think that not only could they; but, it made them feel that they’d be embarrassed if they didn’t or couldn’t; so, most men aren’t afraid to find out and try. The answer is actually somewhere in the middle of the mess that we’ve all been brainwashed with. The most important thing that you need to do most things is a good, working brain; and, most people, be they man or woman, have that. Simply put, that means the chances are good that: YES, YOU CAN!
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Re: Frustrated

Postby bobhenry » Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:33 pm

Often the answers are already here.......

http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1941

Joanne very well presented the wiring in pictorial views. They were easy to understand and her nariatives helped to further clarify what she was doing. I found them instramental in getting my wiring underway and it was so well thought out that I got it all right the first time.

Thanks again Joanne :thumbsup:

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Re: Frustrated

Postby S. Heisley » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:14 pm

bobhenry wrote:Often the answers are already here.......

http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1941

Joanne very well presented the wiring in pictorial views. They were easy to understand and her nariatives helped to further clarify what she was doing. I found them instramental in getting my wiring underway and it was so well thought out that I got it all right the first time.

Thanks again Joanne :thumbsup:

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Bob, with your building background, I suspect that you had some knowledge of electrical systems to begin with; so, Joanne's layout made perfect sense to you. If Nancy could whip out a diagram like Joanne's or even thoroughly understand it, she wouldn't be asking for help. While Joanne's diagram was very pretty and impressive and a lot of people praised her for it, I suspect that it might put some electrical newbies in panic mode and we don't need to do that. I'm hoping that Nancy is looking for a K.I.S.S. electric system, without a lot of bells and whistles. If Nancy can hand-draw something to give us her basic layout idea of of what she thinks she wants and give us a little more information, it would help. Right now, we'd be flying blind and, I suspect she would be, too. But, then again, maybe I'm wrong.
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Re: Frustrated

Postby 48Rob » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:21 pm

...Sometimes...just drawing out what you think you want will lead to a greater/full understanding of what is needed.
Even if it still makes no sense to the person drawing it, others may be able to transform it into something that you can use.
As it stands, if you can just do your best to explain what you need, and what you want, someone here may be able to produce a plan that can be followed.

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Re: Frustrated

Postby nrody » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:09 pm

Sorry for not getting back to you all. I checked out today and demoed my bathroom. I am beat. New tile tub and floor going in in a week. Thought id save a bunch if i did the demolition. Got some of my frustration out. I know all my questions can be answered on the forum but there is so much info it makes my head spin. I guess i am most frustrated by the people that said they would help and are never available or dont return phone calls. I even have some funds set aside for the help but i still get the same old "saturday ok" and then no word from them. Thank you all for your support. I will keep trying. N.
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Re: Frustrated

Postby Verna » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:47 pm

Nancy, it's OK to be frustrated with the wiring. When you look at some the electrical genius' here on tnttt, I can understand!!!!

We can help simplify the wiring for you. Tell us what you're trying to do, and we'll get you hooked up.

Oh, and I'm free Saturday....but I know I'm not driving to CA this week :D
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Re: Frustrated

Postby nrody » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:06 pm

I should be back on teardrop duty saturday. It is just hard when you count on someon and they let you down. On top of that i hace been sick with bronchitus and now a cold. I am a hot mess right now. I have everything for the super simple electrical for my shore power. I have four 12volt lights a small ventline fan and a couple of 12v plug recepticles. The fan and lights ate installed but not hooked up to anything yet. I have a progressive dynamics converter and a friend gave me a battery isolater but i am not sure if i need it.i think i need a 30amp fuse somewhere in there. I have to wire the brakes and running lights. I have to get the brake controller installed in my truck. I will be towing with an 06 toyota tacoma. It has a tow package , 7 pin connector. I still need a battery foor the teardrop. I know my photos are not large enough in my album. The interior is about85%done. I have a new axle tires,fender.i am really close but i got stuck mentally and physically. I will think about it study the info on the forum and try again.
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Re: Frustrated

Postby S. Heisley » Tue May 01, 2012 12:41 am

nrody wrote:I should be back on teardrop duty saturday. It is just hard when you count on someon and they let you down. On top of that i hace been sick with bronchitus and now a cold. I am a hot mess right now. I have everything for the super simple electrical for my shore power. I have four 12volt lights a small ventline fan and a couple of 12v plug recepticles. The fan and lights ate installed but not hooked up to anything yet. I have a progressive dynamics converter and a friend gave me a battery isolater but i am not sure if i need it.i think i need a 30amp fuse somewhere in there. I have to wire the brakes and running lights. I have to get the brake controller installed in my truck. I will be towing with an 06 toyota tacoma. It has a tow package , 7 pin connector. I still need a battery foor the teardrop. I know my photos are not large enough in my album. The interior is about85%done. I have a new axle tires,fender.i am really close but i got stuck mentally and physically. I will think about it study the info on the forum and try again.


Wow, Nancy, it sounds like you know your way around an electrical socket. Maybe you will be okay with Joanne's schematics. I think I'll bow out now and go eat my shoe leather. :oops:

PS. I hope you feel better soon!
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Re: Frustrated

Postby bobhenry » Tue May 01, 2012 5:39 am

Thank you for that thought Sharon !

I felt a bit put upon for simply trying to help.

I feel that for a gathering where ac power is available take the easy extention cord method and run with it. Talk to others at the gathering about your plans and you may find you may want to modify them to implement other features.

Yes I had a dab of electrical and electronics training but believe me I was as lost as Nan when I started to apply it to a teardrop trailer.

And yes I got in a hurry and wanted it all now and only by studying many other build threads did I get luck enough to get it right (Well Almost right :oops: ) I should have installed outside duplex outlets for things like pop up lights or maybe a fan to blow the skeeters away and I wish I had 2 quad boxes for ac appliances instead of just one center one. Just little things that had I used the trailer a few times before finishing the build I may have done just a bit different.
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Re: Frustrated

Postby Verna » Tue May 01, 2012 11:07 am

Nancy, see you know more about electrical than you thought. :thumbsup:

My suggestion for helping with the panic mode is to take 3 pieces of paper and separate the 3 electrical systems. One for the trailer lights, one for the 12V lights and sockets, and one for the 110V outlets, etc. Sometimes when you get overwhelmed, just looking at a portion of the big picture is very helpful. So, separate each into smaller tasks and it will get done quicker.

After you feel better, take another try, ask questions here, and we'll get you on your way to the IRG.

Get well soon :D
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Re: Frustrated

Postby nrody » Tue May 01, 2012 1:13 pm

You all are the best. I am better now and I see I was and am more frustrated with the people who promised to help and then flaked than with the job itself. Thank you all for your support and bringing me back to my own little world of I can do it. I did not mean to be such a complainer. Please forgive me.
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