Mounting solar maintainer 25' from battery, what wire size?

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Mounting solar maintainer 25' from battery, what wire size?

Postby dh » Thu May 26, 2011 11:59 am

One of my projects this summer is a car port on the back of my property for the trailers (trailerport?). I was going to run electric to it from the house for a light and an outlet for a maintainer, then got to thinking, why not go solar? The shed light kit is a no brainer, but I want to put the maintainer pannel on the roof which slopes to the south. What size wire do I need for a 25' run?
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Postby rdelmendo » Thu May 26, 2011 4:57 pm

Hi dh-

Robert at AZ Wind & Solar recommended 10 gage for my panel. I think this was for up to 30' or so feet (we were discussing the +/-'s of using movable PVC ground mounts for the panel).

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Postby bdosborn » Thu May 26, 2011 8:03 pm

Wire should be sized by how much load it will be carrying. How big is your panel?

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Postby Dale M. » Thu May 26, 2011 10:22 pm

bdosborn wrote:Wire should be sized by how much load it will be carrying. How big is your panel?

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Yes .... Need specifics on panel and ancillary apparatus...

If its only for maintenance and output of panel is only a couple of amps, you can get away with something like 14 gauge wire...

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Postby dh » Fri May 27, 2011 12:45 am

I don't have the pannle yet, but know maintainers don't put out a lot of power and was more concerned about power loss from too small of a wire being run.
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Postby azmotoman » Fri May 27, 2011 5:33 am

There are many places on the internet for 'line drop' charts and calculators. Here's just one: http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm

The calculator is near the bottom of the page.
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Postby dh » Fri May 27, 2011 1:00 pm

Thanks for the link :thumbsup:
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Postby Shadow Catcher » Fri May 27, 2011 6:47 pm

Ifn it twere me, I would head down to HF and pick up a 12ga extension cord and use that. Having spent over $100 on rewiring Compass Rose do not go over board.
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Postby bdosborn » Fri May 27, 2011 8:34 pm

A #12 cord would be good for 4 amps at 2.8% voltage drop for 25'. A good target for voltage drop is 3% or less.

Here's a better VD calculator.

http://www.nooutage.com/vdrop.htm

You can pick 14V DC for the voltage, which is closer to what the voltage will be between the panel and a PWM controller.

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Postby dh » Sat May 28, 2011 12:17 pm

Is it possible to go with too big of a wire? Just for fun, lets say I ran an 00 battery cable, what would happen?
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Postby terryjones1 » Sat May 28, 2011 5:52 pm

dh wrote:Is it possible to go with too big of a wire? Just for fun, lets say I ran an 00 battery cable, what would happen?


Ohms law still applys.

E = I R

Voltage = Current x resistance

If you have larger cable, resistance is lower. If you have lower resistance, the voltage drop will be less.

Other than being rather large & heavy, 00 cable would be much better for voltage drop losses.
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Postby bdosborn » Mon May 30, 2011 1:22 pm

dh wrote:Is it possible to go with too big of a wire? Just for fun, lets say I ran an 00 battery cable, what would happen?


Your wallet would get much lighter for about a piddly 2% increase in performance. That's why you shoot for around 3% voltage drop; its a good balance between price and performance.

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Postby dh » Tue May 31, 2011 1:41 pm

Thanks for the replies.
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