Dan in Rhinelander wrote:xccelagator wrote:I am planning to build a light duty offroad tear. Tear will be 10x5 due to we do not want too small. The design will be maybe Benroy, Grasshopper, or the new cub. The main box frame I decided to use 2x2x1/8 along with crossmembers very 2 feet. The tongue I will have to do my home work. Just wondering if anyone has any pointers on this?
The odd use is in Wisconsin is with permit is we can tandem tow trailers. I had a welder modified a 8 foot pop-up to tow a 12' zodiac-type boat with 25 hp OB attached. I know most go WHAT!! It is legal and safe depending on the person. I have done this and doing one trip 2000 miles round trip. If I do this with the TD I will run the main tube the entire lenght from hitch to hitch. Also wondering if anyone has built a frame this way too?
BTW, here are the Wisconsin's DOT permit regulations
http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/business/carriers/forms/mv2743.pdf
Thanks,
Dan
PS, I am not crazy, just creative!!!
I have had this permit, and towed tandem here in the northwoods and had no problem with the setup. One word of caution about the brake setup, Brake-away is ok and highly recommended, but electric brake application can be tricky. Getting the brakes adjusted correctly to apply without causing the lead trailer to brake more aggressively than the rear can be a problem.
Good luck no matter which way you chose.![]()
We gave up the tandem tow because of the cost of the permit being higher than the frequency of the necessity. A good roof rack for the vehicle to put the boat, canoe, or kayak was a much more cost effective long term solution for us.
Eh Neighbor!!!

Yes the permit is $$. They have prorated the permit if ya want to. I think the cheapest is $40 for 3 months. My pop-up is under 3000 lbs and does not need
I have tandem towed without trailer brakes, and yes I was within Wisconsin laws. I did double check that with a phone call to the WI DOT. I was going to do the roof idea, but 112 lb outboard and 255 lb inflatable boat gets heavy and time consuming loading and unloading at campsites.
I have a tandem axle trailer for my JD tractor and wife's Miata. Trailer brakes can affect the tow vehicles control if the brake controller is set too high. I set much lower than most since I keep up brake maintained due to offroading. I tend to drive the speed limit and give plenty of space slowing down with any towing.
Dan