HARBOR FREIGHT TIRE WARRANTY

[bobhenry]

]If you need warranty help be sure that you at least report the correct inflation pressure!

Please forgive me if I'm misreading this, but I think it says that when claiming compensation for a failure which you want to blame on the manufacturer, even if it may be your own fault, you should lie about the operating conditions under which the product failed.

I'd like to say I've always been above doing this, but I have not. On the occasion that I did, it certainly wasn't my proudest moment.

Lie if you are so inclined. but do not guess like I did. I simply guessed wrong. Did not want to report over inflation either so I guessed. Now with the DOT and serial # it is a mute point.

Off to Wally world Automotive at lunch today to get a new one if the price is right. HF is only $14.44 but it's 40 miles away.

[doug hodder]

Off to Wally world Automotive at lunch today to get a new one if the price is right. HF is only $14.44

I guess I don't get it....3 pages of discussion on small tires and you are going to put on a 14$ tire and expect different results...go figure Doug

[bobhenry]

Off to Wally world Automotive at lunch today to get a new one if the price is right. HF is only $14.44

I guess I don't get it....3 pages of discussion on small tires and you are going to put on a 14$ tire and expect different results...go figure Doug

Nah! Wally World is $32.00 the HF price scared me too There is a lot of multi page discussions on this forum that lead nowhere sorry if we disturbed you !

[doug hodder]

Doesn't disturb me in the least. I just couldn't figure out when you only get a 30 day warranty and have already had issues with one of their tires, you'd even entertain thoughts of putting the same thing back on. Doug

[brian_bp]

...They did'nt want to replace the tire.
So this is what he did.
We lived on a busy street. He nailed the tire to a tree by the road with a large sign stateing. " This is one of Joe Browns Tire center tires with two months wear and acording to him its not warrantied"
The tire center was ready to give him a new tire at this point.
He did'nt bend that easily tho, he left it up there a few more weeks.
Hope things go your way. Maybe you could suggest they read our postings.
William

Interesting suggestion, William. Maybe not applicable to the current situation, though.

If I buy a piece of rope, rated for 100 lb, use it for a couple of months, then hang 200 lb of stuff from it and it breaks, should I nail it to a tree with a sign that says " This is one of Company X's ropes with two months wear and acording to him its not warrantied"?

Public attention is one legitimate way to get action when you have not been fairly treated; using slander or libel to force a company to pay for something which is your fault is extortion.

Just my opinion...

[brian_bp]

Off to Wally world Automotive at lunch today to get a new one if the price is right. HF is only $14.44

I guess I don't get it....3 pages of discussion on small tires and you are going to put on a 14$ tire and expect different results...go figure Doug

Ah, but this time he's going to put enough air in it... makes all the difference in the world.

Even if the original was defective, and the replacement is as well, it will be covered by warranty this time. If it was not defective (just underinflated), and the new one isn't either, it won't fail due to underinflation.

I would suggest finding a manufacturer of premium-grade 12" trailer tires, with excellent customer support, but I have no idea who that would be. Carlisle may be better known than Duro, and provides better information on their website and in their catalog, but I don't know if their tires are made any better. The four Carlisles on my lawn tractor haven't failed yet (and don't have a minimum pressure marked on them...), but that doesn't mean much.

[Alphacarina]

The best example of a consumer 'getting even' I ever saw was about 30 years ago. I was TDY to Ft Walton Beach FL and I was made aware of this when I saw it on the front page of the local paper

At that time, the Lincoln Mercury dealership was right downtown, on the main drag. Someone had bought a new Lincoln which he had nothing but trouble with during the warranty period and frequently the dealer gave him the same song and dance - "That's not covered under the warranty"

So this enterprising guy goes to City Hall and pays 3 months rent on the parking meter directly in front of the dealership. He parks his nearly brand new Lincoln there which he has painted bright yellow lemons all over and there it sits, 24/7

The dealership tres everything they can do to get the car towed, but it's legally parked and the meter is paid for . . . . forever as far as the dealer knows - The city won't allow it to be towed

First, it makes all the local newspapers and is shown on the evening TV news and then the national media gets wind of it. Turns out the dealer who claims he can't do a darned thing for his customer actually has enough influence with the Ford Motor Company that they decide to take back his 'lemon' and give him a brand new Lincoln in it's place - Only then can the dealer move the car . . . . 'cause he owns it then

I'm really surprised anybody offers even a 30 day warranty on a tire because how the buyer treats it, what he does with it and how he maintains it is all out of their control - They CAN tell at a glance though if the tire has been overheated . . . . and that can only mean one thing - Low air pressure

Don

[bobhenry]

[Ah, but this time he's going to put enough air in it... makes all the difference in the world.
YEP!

I would suggest finding a manufacturer of premium-grade 12" trailer tires, with excellent customer support, but I have no idea who that would be. Carlisle may be better known than Duro, and provides better information on their website and in their catalog, but I don't know if their tires are made any better. The four Carlisles on my lawn tractor haven't failed yet (and don't have a minimum pressure marked on them...), but that doesn't mean much.

Apparently you keeping your lawn tractor under the recommended 55 MPH.

Wally world handles carlisle and it is on Chubby at this hour. This axle set was from a destroyed HF 4x8 that transported a huge bolder so it was probably grossly over loaded but I bought the remains for $75 bucks I just paid 2/3 that for 1 tire and rim so I am not complaining. The bearing I never got to , only had the packing anti rust coating and was badly neglected. So on a closing note to this 3 pages of wasted info don't assume a trailer foreign to you has the correct tire pressure read the damn sidewall and don't assume the bearing have been cared for check them. I was excited and anxious to get my toy functional and cut some corners. DON"T ASSUME CHECK !

[brian_bp]

...The four Carlisles on my lawn tractor haven't failed yet (and don't have a minimum pressure marked on them...), but that doesn't mean much.

Apparently you keeping your lawn tractor under the recommended 55 MPH.

Yes, the only way that thing could make 55 MPH - or even 55 km/h - would be in freefall.

That makes me wonder what the lawnmower racers use... the set of rules I read said they had to be actual lawn mower tires, at no more than 15 PSI (my Carlisles are marked 14 PSI max on the fronts, 10 PSI max on the rears). Even though the racers "only" make 50 MPH, I bet they aren't covered by the tire warranty!

One team (G-Team Racing) does use Carlisle TurfmasterTires. I see from the spec chart that in the size of my lawn tractor's front (15 x 6.00 - 6) they would have just enough capacity to handle bobhenry's tear... at 10 MPH; much better than my Turf Savers.

Of course, Carlisle turf tires are not the same as Carlisle trailer tires, just in case anyone was thinking there was anything serious being discussed here...

[Alphacarina]

The 13 inch Carlisle ST trailer tires at WallyWorld have 'Made in USA' cast right into the sidewalls, but I could find no mention of where the 4.80 X 12's were made - They were Carlisle ST's too, but I suspect they are from China as they didn't say otherwise . . . . .

They do sell the 4.80 X 12's mounted on wheels (both 4 hole and 5 hole) for those looking to buy a spare though
Don

[brian_bp]

The 13 inch Carlisle ST trailer tires at WallyWorld have 'Made in USA' cast right into the sidewalls, but I could find no mention of where the 4.80 X 12's were made - They were Carlisle ST's too, but I suspect they are from China as they didn't say otherwise . . .

The factory is included in the DOT-required codes moulded into the sidewall... although you need to look up the location of the factory in a list such as All the D.O.T. Tire Plant Codes.

Here, it seems that WalMart only goes up to 12" in trailer tires.

[vkakula]

The 5.30 X 12's that came on my 1740 HF trailer are rated at 1,000 pounds per tire, but that's with them inflated to 80 PSI and as it plainly states on the wheel, limited to 55 MPH

I'm like you - I don't care for rock hard tires on anything, so my HF trailer has 205/55-15's on it (not much bigger around than the 5.30-12's actually) and I can safely run those at 25 pounds and 80 MPH if I like, because they can safely carry the 500 pounds or so I have on them with much less pressure in them than the small trailer tires

Don

Did the 205/55-15's fit on the HF hubs?

I just bought the 1740 trailer and assembled it yesterday. Took most of the day mostly because this was my first time assembling it and also because I received a duplicate RR frame piece. I probably spent 30 minutes trying to figure if I screwed up in assembly or if they sent me duplicate piece. The store manager was really nice and opened a new box for me to get the RL member.

I too was taken aback by the 80psi recommendation but will obey given the comments here!

[Alphacarina]

Did the 205/55-15's fit on the HF hubs?

So long as you have a wheel which uses the same bolt pattern, they do - 5 bolt Mazda wheels use the same pattern as the 5 bolt HF hubs. Since mine are FWD type wheels (high offset) I had to use a 2 inch spacer between the hub and the wheel on the trailer. Good thing actually as the big hole in the middle of the Mazda wheels still isn't big enough to fit over the HF hubs without the spacer . . . . and the hubcap wouldn't fit without it either. One good thing in all this is that I don't need to carry an extra spare because the car and the trailer can now share the same one

Don

[brian_bp]

...Good thing actually as the big hole in the middle of the Mazda wheels still isn't big enough to fit over the HF hubs without the spacer...

... and the smaller hole in my Toyota's wheels still wouldn't clear my Dexter hubs, even with the spacer; however, if it works with your wheels, then a properly configured spacer setup like Don's is slick, for spare compatibility and appearance match.

You don't even need the bolt pattern to be the same, since the adapter can make up for that, as well. You do need to use a wheel which has enough offset that when the adapter thickness is subtracted, the net result puts the tire in the right place - that is true for Don's setup, and would work for me if my Toyota centre hole were larger.

[nikwax]

Most of the stuff they sell is junk, IMHO. They do make things that see occasional use affordable (shrinkers, stretchers, die grinders, big cresent wrenches, power tools, etc.). If I am going to rely on something for reliable service, I'd think twice about using anything from Harbor Freight. Do a "potential problem analysis" and imagine what a "failure" might entail and act accordingly.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Gus

your warranty is through the manufacturer per federal law (Moss-Magnussen Act), not through the retailer. HF is selling tires manufactured by someone else. Warranty is via the manufacturer.