Bal Stabilizer Placement Question

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Bal Stabilizer Placement Question

Postby Galen » Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:52 pm

I have a pair of Bal stabilizer jacks. I would like to place them so that I can lower them from the rear of the trailer. But I am concerned that if I bottom out the back of the trailer it will smash them up because they would be lower than the bumper in the rear.

The other option is to mount them further forward closer to the axle, and access the screws from the sides of the trailer. But this would require adding more steel supports, and more weight.

I figure I will have around 13" of clearance from ground to bumper, but the stabilizers would hang a couple of inches lower under the bumper.

So is bottoming the bumper out a real concern?

Another option is to add some bumper guards next to or over the jacks. Or just mount them forward.

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Re: Bal Stabilizer Placement Question

Postby eamarquardt » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:18 pm

You might want to go out, find as steep a driveway or dip as you can find, and do an eyeball test.

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Re: Bal Stabilizer Placement Question

Postby Galen » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:34 pm

Thanks Gus. It's a good idea, but is not really an option. The trailer is not put together enough for a drive. I am trying to get all the welding stuff done so I can get it licensed as a utility trailer.
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Re: Bal Stabilizer Placement Question

Postby eamarquardt » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:46 pm

As an option you can weld on small pads that the jacks can be bolted to. Weld two sets on. One all the way back and then a second set fwd where you're sure they'll clear.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Bal Stabilizer Placement Question

Postby bobhenry » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:49 am

At work we have a 32' hydraulic dump roller trailer with the axles rather far forward. To prevent dragging the rear the manafacture installed a large steel drum on bearings to act as a roller in steep incline situations.

Perhaps a well placed fixed caster wheel would be an option. It would protect the stabilizers and take and transfer some of the trailer weight in extreme situations.
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Re: Bal Stabilizer Placement Question

Postby halfdome, Danny » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:18 am

I stopped putting them on as we never had a need to use them and their a hassle to use anyway.
I use a Walmart scissor jack on the low side behind the axle to level it out since that & the adjustable tongue jack is all that is needed to level out the (3 points) triangle.
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Re: Bal Stabilizer Placement Question

Postby Galen » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:23 am

One of the reasons I want them is because on my design we enter behind the axle. And with the weight of two of us the trailer might pop up in the front. Plus I already bought them, so if I don't use them I would have to decide that I made a mistake buying them, which isn't possible. :DOH2:
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Re: Bal Stabilizer Placement Question

Postby wingloader » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:26 am

Galen wrote:...so if I don't use them I would have to decide that I made a mistake buying them, which isn't possible. :DOH2:


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Re: Bal Stabilizer Placement Question

Postby Galen » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:34 am

I am slightly tempted to mount them flush inside the frame and drill a hole through the frame in the back for access to the screw. That would weaken the frame, but maybe if I weld a tube inserted through the hole it would add back in some strength, and keep water out of the frame.

Thoughts?
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Re: Bal Stabilizer Placement Question

Postby eamarquardt » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:21 pm

Galen wrote:I am slightly tempted to mount them flush inside the frame and drill a hole through the frame in the back for access to the screw. That would weaken the frame, but maybe if I weld a tube inserted through the hole it would add back in some strength, and keep water out of the frame.

Thoughts?


If you are drilling the whole for the jack screw through the vertical part of your frame (as opposed to the horizontal flanges) the loss of strength (if you drill a modest hole) will be minimal. Most of the strength in the beam comes from the flanges, not the connecting web. Look at airplane ribs, bridges, etc.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Bal Stabilizer Placement Question

Postby Galen » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:35 pm

eamarquardt wrote:... the loss of strength (if you drill a modest hole) will be minimal...
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That's what I figured. I think that is what I will do. It will be the most attractive option, hiding the stabilizer in the frame, won't be as a likely to be damaged by grounding, and puts them where I want them.
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