Grounding Continuity of Bolt-together chassis

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Grounding Continuity of Bolt-together chassis

Postby eLink » Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:18 am

I have an NT Ironton steel trailer. When I first assembled it I noticed that the stock lights were pretty dim and figured it was due to the painted bolted connections between framing members. Now that the camper is nearing completion it's time to revisit the issue.

Can someone give me recommendations for creating better continuity between all the framing members?

My first instinct is to remove the bottom bolts, and one by one, sand off the paint, re-bolt and seal with electrical paint. Or just forget about it and run a negative wire to each line, back to the tow vehicle?

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Re: Grounding Continuity of Bolt-together chassis

Postby Squigie » Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:28 am

Just run a ground wire for each circuit that needs it.
It is better to troubleshoot one wire than it is to work through a daisy-chain of corroding connections.
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Re: Grounding Continuity of Bolt-together chassis

Postby Graniterich » Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:47 am

Squigie wrote:Just run a ground wire for each circuit that needs it.
It is better to troubleshoot one wire than it is to work through a daisy-chain of corroding connections.
This is the answer. Very little extra time for years of reliability

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Re: Grounding Continuity of Bolt-together chassis

Postby Sparksalot » Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:20 pm

Squigie wrote:Just run a ground wire for each circuit that needs it.
It is better to troubleshoot one wire than it is to work through a daisy-chain of corroding connections.

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Re: Grounding Continuity of Bolt-together chassis

Postby Pmullen503 » Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:47 pm

eLink wrote:I have an NT Ironton steel trailer. When I first assembled it I noticed that the stock lights were pretty dim and figured it was due to the painted bolted connections between framing members. Now that the camper is nearing completion it's time to revisit the issue.

Can someone give me recommendations for creating better continuity between all the framing members?

My first instinct is to remove the bottom bolts, and one by one, sand off the paint, re-bolt and seal with electrical paint. Or just forget about it and run a negative wire to each line, back to the tow vehicle?

Thanks


I agree that a separate ground wire is better/easier to troubleshoot. I tie that wire into the frame for ground as well.

The other thing you should check is your wiring resistance. I have had the bad luck of getting Chinese made wire that corroded inside the insulation to the point the lights wouldn't work...twice.
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Re: Grounding Continuity of Bolt-together chassis

Postby TimC » Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:27 pm

Same trailer. I would buy it again.

I ran a dedicated ground wire all the way to the lights. Simple, and very easy to determine if you have a bad ground. Corrosion will eventually get to the chassis grounds unless you spend time to weatherproof the connections at each light and main lug on the tongue.
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Re: Grounding Continuity of Bolt-together chassis

Postby Tom&Shelly » Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:43 pm

Agree with the dedicated wire. If your lights don't have a ground terminal that you can get to, you can drill a hole in the aluminum frame for a small bolt (say #6-#10, not enough to endanger the frame strength or integrity), and use a crimp or solder lug, with a lock washer to dig in and make a connection. I'd do that before messing with trying to make the bolts holding the frame together a good electrical connection.

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Re: Grounding Continuity of Bolt-together chassis

Postby pchast » Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:18 pm

I ran dedicated grounds.... With the few light fixtures that
were designed to bolt to a ground I installed a wire to the
individual connection.
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Re: Grounding Continuity of Bolt-together chassis

Postby eLink » Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:02 am

Thanks everyone! Dedicated negative wires it is!
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Re: Grounding Continuity of Bolt-together chassis

Postby philpom » Wed Apr 26, 2023 5:26 pm

eLink wrote:Thanks everyone! Dedicated negative wires it is!

Sounds like you are set but wanted to add.... I too ran a dedicated ground wire everywhere needed so I didn't ever have to deal with it again. I built on a bolt together trailer frame.

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