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Postby IndyTom » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:44 pm

The trailer frame is complete and ready to pull. just needs painting and I am waiting for the weather to warm up a little before I start that. Right now I am just trying to think of all the details that will be much harder to deal with later. I need to run wiring to my trailer brakes from the tongue. I am thinking that this should be run inside conduit. Im I thinking right, or am I over thinking? I was planning 1/2" conduit for all the trailer wiring that would be outside the cabin itself. Opinions?? :thinking: :thinking:
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Postby Nitetimes » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:55 pm

The conduit is a good idea and it will come in handy when the wiring goes bad. :thumbsup:
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Postby halfdome, Danny » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:28 pm

I agree with using conduit but make sure you use a junction box at every turn, it's so much easier to work with the wire. Danny
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Postby IndyTom » Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:56 am

OK. So this time I wasnt over engineering the problem. Im thinking PVC conduit held in place with galvanized straps attached with self drilling screws.

And Danny, you are very correct about ensuring access to every turn. I have been down that road before.

Im also thinking that once all the wires are in place, sealing the ends with a plug of silicone to keep the crud out. :thinking:
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Postby Arne » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:36 am

Great idea...
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Postby toypusher » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:11 am

from an 8" utility up to car haulers


What do you use the 8 inch utility trailer for?? :lol:
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Postby Chris C » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:18 am

Probably to carry those teardrop trailer models we see. :rofl:
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Postby angib » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:16 pm

IndyTom wrote:Im also thinking that once all the wires are in place, sealing the ends with a plug of silicone to keep the crud out. :thinking:

Also sounds like an excellent way to keep crud inside the conduit...... :roll:

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Postby IndyTom » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:43 pm

OK Andrew, Im confused now. :? Are you saying that you think sealing with silicone is a bad idea? If one started with crud-free conduit, wouldn't the inside remain in a crud-free state when sealed with silicone? :thinking:
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Postby angib » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:38 pm

Sorry, that was a bit cryptic. It's my experience that you need to be very sure your 'sealing' method will work otherwise the 'seal' becomes a way of holding in crud.

Crud, water, whatever seems to have this magical property that it can find its way in past a less-than-perfect seal, but not out past the same seal, unless it's a really good seal - which usually means a good quality, purpose-designed (and expensive) one.

My preference for under-trailer wiring is to use conduit just as a very long cable clip - no end caps, seals, joints, junctions, etc.

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Postby madjack » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:30 pm

...I agree with Andrew on this one...we used conduit from the tube tongue to the entrance at rear of tear...no plugs, if water or crud get in it, it will get right backout...
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Postby asianflava » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:51 am

I ran the wiring thru the tongue (single tube tongue) which is open on both ends. The rest of the way, it is clamped to the outside of the tubing.
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Postby IndyTom » Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:17 am

Thanks Andrew and Madjack. Not sealing the ends of the conduit will certainly simplify things. Andrew, of course you are correct. I had spent considerable time trying to devise a way to seal the ends. The silicone plug was the best I had come up with, but I can see now how it could fail pretty easily.

I am planning to use PVC conduit mounted to the frame with single hole straps and self-drilling screws. Guess I have my next shopping list for a trip to Menards.
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Postby oklahomajewel » Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:03 am

Okay, using conduit from the trailer and back, under the trailer frame is something my friend and co-builder now had said we should do.

My ? : How are you attaching the conduit to the frame? Straps? Weld? Or is it attached to the underside of the floor/deck? Any visuals of course would help!

And then do you have a junction box at the rear, under the galley and then go up to a fuse box in the galley wall? The Kuffel plans show that , then run the wiring thru the wall or roof. Phil suggested using conduit, I guess flexible , but is that necessary? or overkill?

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Postby IndyTom » Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:42 am

Julie,
I am currently planning to run only the trailer connections to the tow vehicle in conduit under the body(brake lights/turn signals, clearance lights, and brakes). All my 110V wiring and interior 12V wiring I intend to run in the walls of the tear. Someone here( sorry cant remember who just now) suggesting running them in 1/4" plastic tubing for easy repair replacement. That sound like a good idea, im thinking I will probably do that too.

As far as the conduit I am using. It is 1/2" PVC attached with single hole galvanized straps and self drilling screws. I promise there will be visuals as soon as possible. Hopefully this weekend.
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