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Postby livetoride21 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:26 pm

Hey guys, my name's Kevin and i'm from Quebec Canada. I saw a teardrop trailer this summer while camping, and found this site just about a week ago. I'm now hooked, and gathering intel to make my own teardrop in the spring. I have a few questions however, I'm looking to do something a little different.

I currently have an old coleman pop-up that I stripped down to the box and have been using for a utility trailer to haul my motocross bike around. Should prove to be a great frame for a teardrop!
Now, here's where the different part arises :twisted:
I'm planning on building a 4x8 flatbed with a tongue box on the trailer, and then building a removable teardrop "pod" , hopeing to keep the weight of the pod under 300lbs. I know this seems quite light, but It will be a barebones build, very stripped down galley, only a shelf (no cabinets) and only a shelf on the inside.
Planning on using 1x2 and 1x3 pine as a frame with 1/4" plywood on-top . no double sheating or insulation, as I will only really be using this in summer weather, and won't be air conditioning. it will get a fanned roof vent and twin doors. floor will be 3/8" or 1/4" ply on a 2x2 pine frame.

So far does it see possible to you guys? I calculated the weight with average density of pine and plywood and it seemed possible.

My other question is, how aerodynamic is a weekender style vs a standard teardrop? I'm torn between the two designs due to the ease of build of the weekender style.

thanks, Hope to get some responses!
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Postby livetoride21 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:38 pm

forgot to mention. my TV is a 1998 honda civic hatchback. towing capacity is a max of 1000lbs. (which i've already towed without issue) and the reason for the removable pod is to retain the ability to tow my motocross bike.
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Postby canned o minimum » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:39 pm

As one who TOOK OUT the shelves/cabinets.. DON'T DO IT ! I now hafta figure out HOW to put em BACK ! It's real nice to have the TD "ready" fer campin instead of puttin everstuff in a BOX inside the house and transferin it ALL to the TD and fillin up the sleeper part with the "stuff"

If I'm on a LONG haul.. or even if I git a bit groggy.. I gotta MOVE all them boxes around so I can take a nap "on the road".

Canned goods, cookin utensiles STAY on the shelf/cabinets and small cabinets/shelves can hold yer clothes instead of a suitcase/box

Jus MY 2 cents..
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Postby Moho » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:41 pm

Check out the foamie section, lightweight and could be removeable. Also check out Andy's build below. On jacks which lift it off the frame. Combine the two and you have a winner.


http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=43744&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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Postby livetoride21 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:44 pm

hmm well I was lookin more on the weight aspect. I'm usedto tent camping so I generaly pack fairly light. and would most likely put buckle down straps for a utensil bin, as well would still have a separation in between the galley area and sleeping area in order to put cooler the bottom. But I still have a few months to contemplate hehe. If I can work out a superlight method of construction then the cabinets will forsure make their way in! thinking of hardyboard inset in 1x1 pine (panel doors). and on the inside of the tear just mesh bags for clothes. need to keep her as light as possible
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Postby livetoride21 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:46 pm

Moho wrote:Check out the foamie section, lightweight and could be removeable. Also check out Andy's build below. On jacks which lift it off the frame. Combine the two and you have a winner.


http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=43744&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0


Awsome! just what I was looking for . checking it out right now!
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Postby livetoride21 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:58 pm

alright well concept has been prooved hehe. one step complete. now anyone have any experience with the aerodynamics of a weekender shape vs standard tear?
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Postby starleen2 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:13 pm

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Postby canned o minimum » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:18 pm

Sounds like yer pullin it with a "small" vehicle.. hence, the weight requirements.. or lack thereof.
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Postby livetoride21 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:30 pm

canned o minimum wrote:Sounds like yer pullin it with a "small" vehicle.. hence, the weight requirements.. or lack thereof.


yep. vehicle will be about the same size as the trailer . towing capacity of about 1000lbs. so weight is the most important part. not looking for a 5 star hotel. Just a great way to stop for the night on long trips and not haveto pack and unpack a tent every other night.
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Postby canned o minimum » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:39 pm

A motorcycle maybe ? I tow my Little Guy 4 wide with a 1965 VW Bug !
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Postby livetoride21 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:12 pm

canned o minimum wrote:A motorcycle maybe ? I tow my Little Guy 4 wide with a 1965 VW Bug !


aha, nope. sorry, I specified in a later post. towing with a 1998 honda civic hatchback. 1.6 4cyl, about 105hp.
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Postby canned o minimum » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:34 pm

105 horses !?? Mine has bout 50 horses...pulls the 785 lbd tear real GUD !
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Postby Roly Nelson » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:16 am

Hi there Kevin, welcome to the most informative trailer forum on the net. I may be able to answer some of your questions about your light-weight build, since I have a woody 8 footer that weighs 450 lbs with a sparce galley (no stove, sink or ice chest) I also have a super-light weight 6 footer that weighs in at 245 lbs, also with a sparce galley (just the wooden tear body weighs only 95 lbs). Then there is the latest one-off model, which is only 3 ft wide and 3 ft long, (with tip-out, slide-out and tip-up) which is slightly less than 100 lbs....total (no frame, axle, or springs, and no wheels at all, as it cantelevers off of the hitch on the car) %@*$#

It is encouraging to see that you plan to have 2 doors, good move, and are planning on using 1/4 inch plywood for your build. All of my teardrops have 1/4 inch or 1/8 inch exteriors, which has been no problem after ten years and 30,000 miles. Your plan for a 1/4 inch floor, should work out fine, (after all who ever stands up on a TD floor, and it is usually covered with a mattress) as long as the supports below are close enough together, (no farther than 12 inch centers). Now, having a removable pod is rather inovative, but such thinking out of the box, makes it even more interesting. If you plan the have a natural wood finish on the exterior, keep in mind, sanding and re-finishing once a year will be required. For use in Canada, I suggest alum or FRP exterior material, or something similar.

Lastly, if you have any concerns about it's aerodynamic properties, I have often felt that unless you plan to strap it onto the nose of a rocket and have it shot into space, round front, angular front, slanting front, probably won't make a bit of difference while you are towing it a normal highway speeds, which by the way, here In Calif. is 55 mph, max. Others have expressed the same opinion, since turbulant air follows your hauler.

If you do a little research here on the board, you will find builders who have converted pop-ups to teardrop configuration. I wonder how much alteration you will have to do to slim the frame down to fit a 4x8 sheet of plywood. Another concern, (probably only in my mind) is the size of the wheels and tires. I'm all for at least 12 inchers, but others seem to do just fine with 8 inchers.

I hope this answers some of your questions, and bear in mind, these are only my opinions, since most builders use heavier construction materials which of course adds greatly to the final weight. All of my tears are being pulled with a 4 banger engine with no problems at all. If you have any further questions about my suggestions, feel free to PM me, as I will always answer requests regarding my off-of-the-wall construction ideas. Hey, they work for me, and that's what counts. Good luck on your build, be sure to take pics to post on the board, and you better hurry up and make some sawdust, right away.
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Postby livetoride21 » Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:35 pm

hehe, well the frame measure is currently 52" wide for the two main beams front to back. I'm thinking of keeping the exta width in order to put about a 6" high railing all the way around for when I'm carrying my bike. so right there, 2x2 pine railing will bring the width down to 49" clear (1.5" nominal for the 2x2's) and thats just perfect for sliding the tear in and out. the wings on the trailer frame will be cut off to lose some weight as they will no longer be necessary. it will be then sheated with 3/8" ply for the utility trailer part. it currently has 8 or 10" wheels with fairly wide tires (78 coleman tent trailer). most likely going to switch to axle over leaf and swap in 12" rims, as the tires are a little decreped. And the plan is to seal the roof by 1 or two layers of fibreglass matt then paint the exterior, as much as I hate painting wood. it is just ply after all . interior will be sanded and possibly even stained depending on how antsy I am to go camping, then finished with a nice marine varnish.

I'm very impressed with how quick I've got responses here! So I will be posting even more questions eventually. for now I'm still r&ding for exactly how I want to do things. And I'm glad to hear from some experienced tear droppers that I'm not crazy for wanting a removable spacepod! aha.

Now the debate starts, Teardrop, or weekender style!? hmmm advantages vs disadvantages...
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