Toilet question

[msnglinc]

If you always stayed in a campground that had hookups could you use a standard residential toilet in a conversion trailer and eliminate the black tank? I would still use a gray tank so it could be emptied to finish clearing the line before packing up. Anybody ever try this?

[hankaye]

msnglinc, Howdy;

If you always stayed in a campground that had hookups could you use a standard residential toilet in a conversion trailer and eliminate the black tank? I would still use a gray tank so it could be emptied to finish clearing the line before packing up. Anybody ever try this?

I do live in an RV. I still use the commode and black tank. Reason, a regular household system
requires a tank at,the commode to supply enough water to do the flush and enough to push
the entire load to the exterior drainage system. A household system requires a trap of sorts
to ensure that the odors don't run you out http://www.corraveni.com/news_show.php?id=70
The system that was developed for Marine use and RVs works fine and truly is less complicated
in the long run.

hank

[jandmz]

I hesitate to design for what we have "always" done. I like to leave the possibility open for doing something different when the opportunity arises.

With that in mind, If I were designing for the possibility of a road trip in a CT and wanted to avoid installing a black tank, I would look for an old Thetford C2 or C4 cassette toilet. The toilet installs permanently and has a removable black tank in the toilet that you just slide out and take to the dump station or empty into a campground flush toilet. It is easy, convenient and light weight.

[Prem]

Nasty stuff. My dog and my cat always go in the neighbor's yard. The downside to that is that their cats go in my yard. Since RV parks and campgrounds have on site toilets, I don't have to deal with that s___ in *my* living space (trailer). In the alternative, you get one of these, line it with a plastic bag, put some peat moss in the bottom and voila:

[Zipline65]

:frightened: Nasty stuff. My dog and my cat always go in the neighbor's yard. The downside to that is that their cats go in my yard. Since RV parks and campgrounds have on site toilets, I don't have to deal with that s___ in *my* living space (trailer). In the alternative, you get one of these, line it with a plastic bag, put some peat moss in the bottom and voila:

This system is what we have started using. When I tell non campers about it they are offended that we would place the bags in the dumpster. What is the best ecological disposal for personal waste? I like the simplicity of the Luggable Loo but want to keep my effect on the ecosystem to a minimum.
Liz

[Prem]

Liz,

People pick up their dog poo and put the plastic bag in the dumpster. No difference, unless human cooties offend one as a concept.

I was shocked to learn that peasant Chinese rice farmers fertilize their rice paddies with human excrement.

I won't be growing any rice any time soon.

Peat moss works amazingly well.

[hankaye]

Zipline65, Howdy;

If you truly feel it's necessary to "Conform", to the norm...
then you could haul the baggie to the designated hole in the ground,
get one of the corners stuffed in the hole then use one of those looong
handled bar-b-que knives and pierce it in a vertical manner so the contents
go where they were designed to go (by humans, not nature). Be sure to
enter from above the contents or you'll have a larger mess to contend with
Otherwise a dumpster works just fine.

hank

[Prem]

Ain't tuchin' that with *my* BBQ equipment!

[Zipline65]

Thanks for the responses. I do toss our doggie bags into the trash and people thank us for doing that. Good point. And I don't believe our grilling tools will be used on non-food items either.

[Prem]

And I don't believe our grilling tools will be used on non-food items either.

[lrrowe]

And where do baby disposable diapers go?

[Prem]

On the coals when the cooking is done?

[Padilen]

Liz,
I was shocked to learn that farmers fertilize human excrement.
ll.

Which is where the waste from US of A @ in Michigan septic tanks went until a few years ago. But not fields for human consumption( allegedly). Now it has to be "treated" and can't allow run off. Waste treatment plants convert waste into "pure" water which is then piped into rivers or back into water systems.
Waste treatment facilities are complaining about wipes that do not break down. The odors(fragrances )/slime from laundry products, that resist being cleansed out.
The grass is always greener over the septic field

[dales133]

I went to a revolutionary sewage treatment plant in New Zealand on a school trip 35 odd years ago.
They stirred the waste up then filtered all the water off over a couple of days then did it again, this aparantly rendered the solids fit for fertilizing food.
The interesting thing was that no chemicals were used at all through the whole process and although after tidal filtration it was safe to drink....not that it was used for drinking water.
The place is called walkworth, pretty sure it's still going

[Prem]

Beats massive chlorine use.