2014 Pace American 8.5x16 V-Nose Conversion

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Re: 2014 Pace American 8.5x16 V-Nose Conversion

Postby HsPaap72 » Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:41 pm

OverTheTopCargoTrailer wrote:
HsPaap72 wrote:check out a time lapse of most of all the work done on the trailer to date

here -------> http://youtu.be/QolxvnQ5EO0

its now in oregon with me awaiting some final touches



It says could not load movie :x :x


Ive had some other friends say that as well. it wont work on a mobile device and sometimes work on the computer. im no tech. cant do anything about it.
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Re: 2014 Pace American 8.5x16 V-Nose Conversion

Postby HsPaap72 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:03 pm

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Got a bed lofted in fits a bent ikea king mattress I had lying around. This serves as a bit of a couch back so it's pretty comfy, with a flat section of the mattress at 4' wide.
Bracketed in some vertical 2x4 to the wall that are in turn mounted to some studs that run horizontal at top,mid, and bottom of the trailer. These horizontal studs are 2x4 ripped to 1x4 and fastened to the trailers metal vertical frame 1x1s.

The with the same method I mounted in this bench/counter on the driver side. It's pretty high, I'm 6,5" so I don't like low counters.
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Re: 2014 Pace American 8.5x16 V-Nose Conversion

Postby HsPaap72 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:08 pm

In this corner by the bed I have woven/tied in some HDepot rope to make a net wall. Since my clothes will be transported weekly back to PDX with me for washing they will constantly be in bags. So I figured hanging them in their bag (sock/base layer underwear bag, shirts bad, pants) It's the net wall dresser. Works good to drape various gear over/thru as well as hang head lamps, water bottles...


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This has all become some strange version 1.0 2x4 Lincoln log build.
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Re: 2014 Pace American 8.5x16 V-Nose Conversion

Postby HsPaap72 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:16 pm

I'm currently looking to get proper tubing for this, flex tube. I'll then get a small (3x3) plate to mount the burner to. Then rig up, weld up, bolt together a small grate to put above the burner, so as to be the resting grate for pots/pans.
All in all with the flex tube and mobile burner I can place the burners a bit more freely. My cast iron and other pans did not fit the best in the restricted space of the Coleman suitcase stove.

Although I could piece it back together and delete the side walls and top/lid... Hmmm


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Re: 2014 Pace American 8.5x16 V-Nose Conversion

Postby Rainier70 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:18 am

Great build! I like your little woodstove.

Your corrugated tin should work well as a heat shield. Is it offset from the wall? If it is slightly offset and you leave about a two inch gap both at the top and the bottom, you should have good air flow, and it will stay relatively cool. I used short pieces of copper tubing to off set my small heat shield. The copper tubing was easy to cut and then run the screw through the middle.

Where your chimney goes through the wall/ceiling, I would cut the foam board back and pack fiberglass insulation in there. Tear off any paper cover on the batt first. If you have trouble getting it to stay use a little spray adhesive and it should stick in place long enough to get a cover over it. (wear a dust mask)
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Re: 2014 Pace American 8.5x16 V-Nose Conversion

Postby HsPaap72 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:29 pm

Rainier70 wrote:Great build! I like your little woodstove.

Your corrugated tin should work well as a heat shield. Is it offset from the wall? If it is slightly offset and you leave about a two inch gap both at the top and the bottom, you should have good air flow, and it will stay relatively cool. I used short pieces of copper tubing to off set my small heat shield. The copper tubing was easy to cut and then run the screw through the middle.

Where your chimney goes through the wall/ceiling, I would cut the foam board back and pack fiberglass insulation in there. Tear off any paper cover on the batt first. If you have trouble getting it to stay use a little spray adhesive and it should stick in place long enough to get a cover over it. (wear a dust mask)


copper tube!? thats pricey stuff amigo!!
id use that and make a still not a trailer wall haha
Thanks man. Its been a fun project to build on.
so the corrugated posed a problem at one point, since it was galvanized there was the worry of it off gassing zinc fumes when it got too hot. the heat from the stove does not even come close to getting the wall "hot". the galv wall is layered as such: galv steel, fastened to hat channel, which is running horizontally and fastened to the 1/4' hardibacker board that is up against and holding in the 1" of insulation resting against the skin of the trailer. that was is plenty fire proof. and it does have some gap at top and bottom to allow for air flow.

what ended up being a bigger issue was that it went un noticed that i had used the galv silver chimney tube.... that was a bad smell. had to rip the chimney out a time or two. got it back up and installed and do not plan on taking it out again unless its a necessity, or its summer and i can redo the whole thing in a very proper manner. i HATE working with sheet metal, specifically the chimney tube sh**. that chimney is super "custom"
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Re: 2014 Pace American 8.5x16 V-Nose Conversion

Postby HsPaap72 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:30 pm

Rainier70 wrote:Great build! I like your little woodstove.

Your corrugated tin should work well as a heat shield. Is it offset from the wall? If it is slightly offset and you leave about a two inch gap both at the top and the bottom, you should have good air flow, and it will stay relatively cool. I used short pieces of copper tubing to off set my small heat shield. The copper tubing was easy to cut and then run the screw through the middle.

Where your chimney goes through the wall/ceiling, I would cut the foam board back and pack fiberglass insulation in there. Tear off any paper cover on the batt first. If you have trouble getting it to stay use a little spray adhesive and it should stick in place long enough to get a cover over it. (wear a dust mask)


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Re: 2014 Pace American 8.5x16 V-Nose Conversion

Postby HsPaap72 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:31 pm

Made it up to hood I've had two nights up here. Snow both nights cold temps and a warm fire. Plus some fresh deer meat.
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It's been luxury.

But...

Condensation!!!

I have some exposed metal from the trailer frame inside the trailer. I'm experiencing very abundant condensation on all "trailer" metal. Trailer* meaning any original trailer frame metal or roof.
Any advice on combating this?

Should have spray foamed the whole fawwwking thing !!!
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Re: 2014 Pace American 8.5x16 V-Nose Conversion

Postby hankaye » Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:36 pm

HsPaap72, Howdy;

Ventilate! crack a roof vent if you have one.
About the best you can do for now...

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Re: 2014 Pace American 8.5x16 V-Nose Conversion

Postby Prem » Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:36 pm

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Condensation!!! I have some exposed metal from the trailer frame inside the trailer. I'm experiencing very abundant condensation on all "trailer" metal. Trailer* meaning any original trailer frame metal or roof. Any advice on combating this? Should have spray foamed the whole fawwwking thing !!!


Yeah. If it ain't the walls, it's the windows. Happened to me too. I empathize with you. About all you can do is what Hank said: ventilate it.

For that kind of winter camping an all-foam trailer is about the only thing that won't fill up with condensation. (See the Foamie trailer forum on the main board of TNTTT.) You need an igloo with a little ventilation.

In the alternative, it's sunny, mildly warm and very dry in Baja, should you be foot loose and fancy free. The trailer will dry out in a few hours.

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Re: 2014 Pace American 8.5x16 V-Nose Conversion

Postby Rainier70 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 4:14 pm

Ventilation! Just breathing puts out a lot of moisture. It needs a path out. Open your vent and/or a window a bit. No matter what insulation you have, you will get moisture and condensation if you don't have good ventilation.

You should have a good carbon monoxide monitor too. A minor chimney leak can be deadly in such a small area.
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Re: 2014 Pace American 8.5x16 V-Nose Conversion

Postby Prem » Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:27 pm

I'm a fair weather camper only. Doors open for max ventilation and Jimmy Buffet on the stereo. :lol:

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Re: 2014 Pace American 8.5x16 V-Nose Conversion

Postby HsPaap72 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:02 pm

Thanks for all the input. I burn the fire with a window cracked at least an inch. On both windows. Last night I barley had it cracked. No difference.

Carbon monoxide detector in place and working.

I'll try keeping the upper cent open a hair and the window closer to the fire cracked. See if it drys out a bit.

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